In today's episode, I chat with Alex, founder at Authbound, about pivoting from cold outreach agency to go-to-market advisory focused on giving founders clarity over data, attribution, revenue, and client acquisition costs across all channels - using campaign trackers that allow C-level, sales, marketing, and product teams to understand what happened in every campaign and decide whether to push gas or pause. 

We explore his creative approach to list building that traditionally required hiring SDRs for manual research, now automated through Clay by deeply understanding org charts (not just job titles) and mapping each node's KPIs and directions, using conditional formulas for accounts and persons, and building AI projects that become agents with full context on offer, targeting, person, company, region, and demographics - writing cold emails that feel relevant and written only for you (not mass-generated). Alex shares his journey from B2B SDR selling perfumes to retail and hotel chains, moving to tech selling dev services, discovering GPT and starting to experiment, becoming a freelancer on Upwork as fractional SDR for companies outside Bucharest, taking more projects than he could handle, and hiring other freelancers to form the agency Authbound. He predicts two scenarios: businesses that don't adopt technology fast or think outside traditional channels will die, while those with right technology, operators, and AI thinking outside the box will win (whoever owns the data wins), and the biggest bottleneck will be hiring operators - juniors coming out of school face a challenging market because automation replaced tasks they used to do, forcing them to either start their own journey or accept demanding jobs with little pay. Alex's advice: you don't start as GTM engineer, you become one by being curious - you need background in sales, marketing, or revenue ops to understand the bigger picture before learning technology (transition takes weeks with experience, years without). 

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(00:00) Introduction to Outbound Wizards 
(00:30) What Authbound Does: GTM Advisory Over Lead Gen 
(02:17) Campaign Trackers for Cross-Team Clarity 
(04:37) Creative Campaign: Automating List Building That Required SDRs 
(06:55) Creativeness in Logic, Not Just Enrichments 
(07:29) Mapping Org Charts (Not Just Job Titles) 
(08:15) Building AI Projects That Become Agents with Full Context 
(09:30) Journey: B2B SDR Selling Perfumes to Hotels 
(10:00) Discovering GPT, Freelancing on Upwork 
(10:44) Taking Too Many Projects, Hiring Freelancers 
(11:10) Future Prediction: Adopt Technology or Die 
(12:19) Whoever Owns the Data Wins 
(12:49) Biggest Bottleneck: Hiring Operators (Not Juniors) 
(13:34) Advice: You Become GTM Engineer by Being Curious (Need Background First) 
(15:00) Closing and Contact Information

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