If it’s not productive… do we even want it?

In this episode, we challenge the idea that everything needs to have a purpose. From turning hobbies into side hustles to feeling guilty for “wasting time,” we unpack why play feels so hard—and what that reveals about how we measure our worth.

Shoutout to one of our breakdown besties, Chet, for this episode idea—keep an eye out for your special gift 👀