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Most travel companies measure success by bookings. Zach Resnick measures it by how many clients never leave.
Ascend (formerly FlyFlat) is a travel concierge for frequent travelers and it has a 100% 18 month retention rate. Most SaaS companies would die for those numbers. Zach got there by building Ascend around one principle: your time is sacred, full stop.
Before Ascend, Zach played jazz trumpet at Oberlin Conservatory, became a professional poker player, manufactured over $100 million in credit card spend as a college student through Visa gift card arbitrage, and ran Unbounded Capital, a crypto fund built on a contrarian Bitcoin bet that didn't pan out. He then bootstrapped Ascend to over $1M ARR without a single dollar of outside capital and then raised $1.5M from FJ Labs, and eventually brought in Bessemer Venture Partners.
He's a Nassim Taleb disciple. He lives in Lisbon. And he has a rule about red-eye flights that changed how Brennan thinks about his own time.
In this episode, Brennan and Zach go deep on:
→ Why Zach bootstrapped to $1M ARR before talking to VCs, and how to raise from a position of strength instead of desperation
→ How he describes "Delusional chips" as the resource that every contrarian founder needs and how to build it→ The intuition framework: your gut is always right → The red-eye rule and what it actually means to value your own time as a founder
→ Losing his father at 24 and how grief changed his life
→ How Ascend built 94% retention at 12 months with 22-second average response times and 60+ employees
→ The "let it go" framework of when to detach from outcomes and how to know the difference between quitting and releasing
→ The manufactured spend playbook: what opening 300+ credit cards and engineering $100M in spend taught him about systems, edge, and pattern recognition
→ How to interview candidates the way poker players read hands He also shares the one question he asks himself every time he faces a hard decision and why the answer is always already there.
If you're a founder, operator, or anyone who refuses to play someone else's game: this one is for you.
By Infinity ConstellationMost travel companies measure success by bookings. Zach Resnick measures it by how many clients never leave.
Ascend (formerly FlyFlat) is a travel concierge for frequent travelers and it has a 100% 18 month retention rate. Most SaaS companies would die for those numbers. Zach got there by building Ascend around one principle: your time is sacred, full stop.
Before Ascend, Zach played jazz trumpet at Oberlin Conservatory, became a professional poker player, manufactured over $100 million in credit card spend as a college student through Visa gift card arbitrage, and ran Unbounded Capital, a crypto fund built on a contrarian Bitcoin bet that didn't pan out. He then bootstrapped Ascend to over $1M ARR without a single dollar of outside capital and then raised $1.5M from FJ Labs, and eventually brought in Bessemer Venture Partners.
He's a Nassim Taleb disciple. He lives in Lisbon. And he has a rule about red-eye flights that changed how Brennan thinks about his own time.
In this episode, Brennan and Zach go deep on:
→ Why Zach bootstrapped to $1M ARR before talking to VCs, and how to raise from a position of strength instead of desperation
→ How he describes "Delusional chips" as the resource that every contrarian founder needs and how to build it→ The intuition framework: your gut is always right → The red-eye rule and what it actually means to value your own time as a founder
→ Losing his father at 24 and how grief changed his life
→ How Ascend built 94% retention at 12 months with 22-second average response times and 60+ employees
→ The "let it go" framework of when to detach from outcomes and how to know the difference between quitting and releasing
→ The manufactured spend playbook: what opening 300+ credit cards and engineering $100M in spend taught him about systems, edge, and pattern recognition
→ How to interview candidates the way poker players read hands He also shares the one question he asks himself every time he faces a hard decision and why the answer is always already there.
If you're a founder, operator, or anyone who refuses to play someone else's game: this one is for you.