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What does leadership development look like when you share everything you know? Dr. York Kleinhandler, leadership keynote speaker, educator, and creator of Force Multiplier Leadership, has been answering that question for more than four decades. He served 37 years in Army Special Forces, worked as a U.S. Marshal and in finance, and now teaches doctoral students at the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill.
York shares the day an older sergean t watched him teach one class and sent him to Special Forces, how he finished his bachelor’s degree almost two decades after starting it and kept going to a doctorate, and how he decided to become a thought leader. He also explains his power to empower idea: knowledge is power, and the more you share it, the better everyone around you gets.
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Doing too much at work: Nell Debevoise Dewey on doing less on purpose
Doing too much at work has a way of looking exactly like success, right up until the day it costs something.
Nell Derick Debevoise Dewey built a career across three continents, in nonprofits, in post conflict communities, and in a company she founded and led for ten years. By her own account she had gotten herself aligned. The meditation practice was in place. The marriage was good. The work mattered to her. And she was still carrying more than any single calendar could hold.
She traces the whole arc here, starting with a twelve year old in Hartford, Connecticut who noticed that one street decided which children got a jazz band and a guidance counselor and which ones would likely leave school early. That observation set the next twenty years of her work in motion. What followed was an elite education, a decade of building things abroad, a company she grew and then closed with clear eyes, and the realization that alignment is only the first step.
What you will find inside:
Nell's free one page guide to her Stop, Drop, Roll method, a simple way to create clarity without adding to your workload: https://nell3d.kit.com/stopdroproll
Work with Caroline: nextsuccesscareers.com
Next in this series: The Capacity Check, a solo episode on finding the room your goals require.
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Mickey Fitch-Collins: The Work She Actually Loved | Career Change After 20 Years
A career change after 20 years sounds impossible until you hear how Dr. Mickey Fitch-Collins did it. She was successful in higher education, and somewhere along the way the work stopped matching what she loved to do. She had gone into it to help students find their way, and her days had become more meetings about resource allocation than actual helping.
She calls what came next a discernment process. She asked herself what she actually liked doing, and the answer was clear: any time she had been able to train, teach, or speak, she had loved it. That took her into corporate learning and development, where she now teaches human skills and AI skills to tens of thousands of people a year, from a house in the Wisconsin woods where she gets to be a present mom.
In this conversation:
Connect with Mickey at learnit.com/mickey for The Learnit Lounge podcast and a free 45-day Learnit TeamPass for up to 20 teammates with code "lounge."
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Micheal Shaw made his career pivot after twenty-two years of running his own photography studio, when the same digital technology that started his business changed the industry around him. The skill that carried him forward was one he had been giving away for free for fifteen years, because he assumed nobody would pay for it.
Micheal grew up in Rochester, New York, raised by his grandparents, and started his first business at eight years old selling frozen Kool-Aid cups out of the family deep freezer. He built a nightclub photography side hustle into a full studio, earned a master's in strategic marketing, and, after his six-year-old daughter's cancer diagnosis, co-founded Team Jenny Bean Childhood Cancer Foundation. That work became his book, The Invisible Currency of Philanthropy, and a consulting practice that has served several hundred nonprofits.
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Micheal Shaw helps nonprofits and advancement leaders build brands people want to give to. Reach him at theinvisiblecurrency.com.
Caroline Sangal, PhD, coaches scientists, engineers, and technical professionals. Start at nextsuccesscareers.com.
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Starting a business after being laid off is the path Sara Skowronski took. For twenty years she was the person every company leaned on, hired for HR and soon running IT, finance, and whatever else needed an owner. She was let go by a new owner on a Monday, and the first thing she noticed underneath the shock was how much lighter she felt. Now a fractional HR partner and Certified AI Consultant, Sara walks through the pattern that ran through a dozen jobs and the moment she chose to stop repeating it.
That moment came in an interview for a job she liked. She asked the woman she would be replacing why she was leaving, heard "if I don't do it now, I'm never gonna do it," and walked back to the BART station with her own answer.
In this conversation:
Connect with Sara at eoshr.com or linkedin.com/in/saraskowronski. She helps founder-led companies handle HR and use AI where it saves time without creating legal exposure.
If your career looks right on paper and feels wrong inside, visit nextsuccesscareers.com.
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Dr. Kevin Snyder: The Story He Wished He'd Heard
Every choice carries a consequence you can't always see at the time. Kevin Snyder became Dean of Students at High Point University, a role he'd worked toward for years. It came with one condition: give up his public speaking. He agreed, figuring it didn't matter much. Then he realized he'd given up too much.
Most of us have made a version of that trade. We take the promotion, the safer path, the thing that looks right, and we quietly set down something we told ourselves we wouldn't miss. Kevin's story is a clear look at what it takes to notice the trade, name it, and choose again. It reaches back further than the dean's office too. After overcoming severe depression as a teenager, Kevin built his whole life around the power of belief, and the message he brings to every stage is the one he needed to hear back then and never did.
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The one condition attached to his dream job, and why he agreed to it
A dean, a withdrawal form, and a refusal that pointed him toward his whole career
The early moment a stranger told him his talk had helped her, before he'd ever shared his own story
Four questions Kevin asks anyone who feels stuck, and where his own answers led him
What he means when he says what you make of your choice matters more than which choice you make
Connect with Kevin at KevinCSnyder.com
Work with Caroline at nextsuccesscareers.com
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Career reinvention rarely arrives as a plan. For Graham Kuhn, it arrived as a series of jobs that looked unconnected until the day they became one calling.
Graham grew up working farms and wrestling in small-town Wisconsin, trained in opera, sang professionally for years, managed gyms, and eventually landed inside a church making videos every week. He never set out to be a business owner. The videos he made drew the attention of executives sitting in the pews, they started asking who made them, and a company formed around the answer.
In this conversation, Graham and Caroline follow the thread that ran through every chapter of his working life and turned a scattered-looking path into Focus Films.
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If your own path has taken more turns than you expected, this one will help you see the pattern underneath it.
Connect with Graham: find him on LinkedIn and at Focusfilms.com, where he builds authentic story-driven video for business owners.
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What happens when you reach the career milestone you were certain would settle everything, then find a bigger question waiting at the top? Stan Phelps built a career at the top of sports marketing, running tennis promotions for Adidas and managing the New York Yankees relationship from an office inside Yankee Stadium. Each time he reached the role he had aimed for, the view asked more of him than the title had promised.
Following his curiosity, Stan gave himself one year to write about every part of his field, searching for the single idea to go a mile deep on. That year became his first book, and grew into twenty. He left the stability of corporate work behind, moved his family to the Triangle, and built the work and the life he wanted on his own terms.
In this conversation with Dr. Caroline Sangal, Stan shares the full arc, and what changed when he stopped chasing the next thing and started asking what he truly wanted to build.
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Find Stan's latest book, Speak Different, and his work at stanphelps.com.
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You can reach every career goal you set and still catch yourself wondering what it was all for. Patrick Kamba knows that question well. He built the kind of career that looks complete from the outside, leading global programs in pharma, becoming a director, writing a book. And somewhere along the way he started paying attention to a smaller, more honest measure of success: whether he was actually around for the people he loved.
Patrick and Caroline walk through his whole path, from a kid who chose engineering while his family pictured a doctor, to a leader who learned to want less noise and more life. If your work looks right on paper and something quieter has started tugging at you, this one will land.
Patrick Kamba wrote Quiet Ambition. Find him at patrickkamba.com.
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Nobody trains you to lead. Jen Heemstra found that out the hard way, then wrote the book on it.
She became a chemist by accident. Almost went to law school. Took an industry job that quietly convinced her she was mediocre. And then came the moment most academics dread: the tenure vote where half the room votes no.
Here's the twist. That's the moment she found her purpose.
In this episode you'll hear:
Chapters:
00:00 The plan, and a mother's advice
03:30 Changing majors and a year of exploring
07:00 Becoming a chemist by accident
23:00 The industry job
30:00 How a bad job shook her confidence
39:00 The tenure vote
41:00 The afternoon that pointed her to leadership
48:00 Writing the book
52:30 How she defines success
Jen's book, Labwork to Leadership: A Concise Guide to Thriving in the Science Job You Were Not Trained For: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0674258630
Build a career that fuels the life you want: nextsuccesscareers.com
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From the publisher's feed
Have you ever looked at your life or career and quietly wondered, “Is this it?”
That question isn’t a crisis — it’s a signal. An invitation. A…
Your Next Success Podcast with Dr. Caroline Sangal is for students, job seekers, and professionals navigating career transitions, unexpected detours, and the search for authentic success.
Here, we normalize questioning your path — because discovering what you truly want begins with letting go of who you thought you had to be.
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Whether you’re just starting out, reimagining what’s next, or simply asking deeper questions — this is your space to pause, reflect, and rebuild from a place of clarity.
Stop chasing someone else’s version of success.
Start building the career — and life — you were made for.
Tune in and begin Your Next Success.