Dr. Anne Fishel is a clinical psychologist, family and couples therapist, educator and author. Anne is co-founder of The Family Dinner Project, a nonprofit initiative started in 2010 that champions family dinner as an opportunity for family members to connect with each other through food, fun and conversation about things that matter. In this episode, Anne shares with us what she has learned through the pandemic about the power of family meals, the need to be flexible, and the beauty in imperfect things and rescheduled picnics with her own grown children. We are sure you will find Anne’s calm and wisdom as soothing as we did in these messy times. Anne is an Associate Professor at Harvard Medical School and taught Ellen much of the best stuff she knows, including the wisdom of wearing pants for an assertive posture when anticipating sessions with domineering dads.