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From concept to delivery, we bring proven expertise to advance your project. Let's start the conversation: https://edsico.com.au/contact-us/
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In this episode, we're joined by Isabelle Gray-Garraway, a governance specialist with 25 years in project delivery across defence, the NSW public sector, and major government programmes including a $200 million rolling programme at Transport for New South Wales. Isabelle has worked in the audit trenches, operated at executive level, and actively advocated for governance change from the inside, achieving it with real results.
She breaks down what governance actually is, what it absolutely is not (hint: it's not committees, it's not minutes, and it's definitely not theatre), and takes us through two of Australia's most significant public sector failures, Robodebt and the Queensland Health Payroll Programme, to show exactly what governance failure looks like in practice and what it costs. If you lead projects, sit on steering committees, or are responsible for delivering major outcomes, this episode will change how you think about where accountability really lives.
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Watch the video version of the podcast:
https://www.youtube.com/@edsicomgt
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CONNECT WITH US
Website: https://edsico.com.au/
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/alifarhoodimscpmp/
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Time Stamps:
00:00 Intro/Hook
01:58 Introduction of Isabelle Gray-Garraway
07:03 What is governance, and what it's not
11:07 Robodebt: A case study in governance failure
21:18 Why governance has a bad name
32:52 Queensland Health Payroll: Another governance disaster
41:16 Why governance frameworks become ineffective
46:34 The bravery it takes to challenge governance from within
49:23 Human nature, executive inertia, and governance stagnation
DISCLAIMER
The information provided in this podcast is for general purposes only and should not be considered personal advice. Always consult with qualified professionals or experts in the relevant field for personalised advice tailored to your specific situation.
By Ali FarhoodiFrom concept to delivery, we bring proven expertise to advance your project. Let's start the conversation: https://edsico.com.au/contact-us/
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In this episode, we're joined by Isabelle Gray-Garraway, a governance specialist with 25 years in project delivery across defence, the NSW public sector, and major government programmes including a $200 million rolling programme at Transport for New South Wales. Isabelle has worked in the audit trenches, operated at executive level, and actively advocated for governance change from the inside, achieving it with real results.
She breaks down what governance actually is, what it absolutely is not (hint: it's not committees, it's not minutes, and it's definitely not theatre), and takes us through two of Australia's most significant public sector failures, Robodebt and the Queensland Health Payroll Programme, to show exactly what governance failure looks like in practice and what it costs. If you lead projects, sit on steering committees, or are responsible for delivering major outcomes, this episode will change how you think about where accountability really lives.
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Watch the video version of the podcast:
https://www.youtube.com/@edsicomgt
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CONNECT WITH US
Website: https://edsico.com.au/
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/alifarhoodimscpmp/
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/edsicomgt/
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/edsicomgt
Time Stamps:
00:00 Intro/Hook
01:58 Introduction of Isabelle Gray-Garraway
07:03 What is governance, and what it's not
11:07 Robodebt: A case study in governance failure
21:18 Why governance has a bad name
32:52 Queensland Health Payroll: Another governance disaster
41:16 Why governance frameworks become ineffective
46:34 The bravery it takes to challenge governance from within
49:23 Human nature, executive inertia, and governance stagnation
DISCLAIMER
The information provided in this podcast is for general purposes only and should not be considered personal advice. Always consult with qualified professionals or experts in the relevant field for personalised advice tailored to your specific situation.