In this episode, Monika and Scott are joined by Mark Rushton, CEO of Comet Analysis, to unpack a big question in safety: are we measuring the right things?

They explore why lagging indicators still dominate, what gets missed when teams focus on “easy” metrics, and how near misses and weak signals can reveal real risk.

In this conversation:

1. The difference between activity metrics and true risk indicators

2. Why traditional safety metrics can give a false sense of control

3. What more mature, proactive measurement actually looks like

Because looking safe and being safe aren’t the same thing.