In this continuation of their conversation on depression, Pastor Chris Kouba and Josh Thomas talk about what it looks like to begin coming back from a dark season. Looking at Elijah’s story in 1 Kings 19, they unpack how God meets His people with tenderness, rest, food, presence, community, and eventually renewed purpose.

Pastor Chris shares more from his own experience recovering from a traumatic burn accident and the depression that followed, reflecting on the friends, mentors, and church community who helped carry him through. This episode is a reminder that sometimes the most spiritual next step is to rest, ask for help, let others sit with you, and slowly step back into the work God has given you.

For any man who feels too far gone, this conversation offers a deeply personal word of encouragement: God is not done with you.To find out more about Pastor Chris, follow him on all the social platforms (@ckouba) and to connect with the ministry of United City visit https://unitedcity.church.


Show Notes
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Chapter Markers
00:00 – Welcome Back: Continuing the Conversation on Depression
04:15 – Sometimes the Most Spiritual Thing You Can Do Is Rest
07:15 – The Ministry of Presence
12:30 – Asking for Help When You Can’t Muscle Through
17:20 – Getting Out of the Cave and Changing the Routine
22:20 – From Avoidance to Purposeful Action
27:30 – You’re Not Too Far Gone