CW: We chat about bodily fluidy stuff on this episode, if you're a queasy babe - proceed lightly. 

Do you ever feel like...you're/we are too obsessed with your/our romantic relationships? Phoebe and Jacque discuss the mindfuck that is being a human walking around everyday with other humans, the falsities and let downs of romantic relationships, and if all of these "couples resources" are actually helping or harming us? They discuss the systems and binaries at play in romantic relationships, their own romantic relationship dynamics, queering long term partnership, and the associations of relationships to "hard work" and what we apparently gain from this badge of honor. 

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