As the pod winds down, Karl nearing retirement and Jay moving on to greener pastures, they embark in a conversation coming in hot in celebration of Jay’s birthday, which lead them into talking about the most influential time in their life. Karl rehashes a conversation about the most recent Netflix series “black mirror.” This escalates into a very funny, but interesting story of Jay being a DEI hire for those fully capable. They speak about mental health and the importance in taking about tough conversations. The pod ends with fun facts, with an interesting conversation on where technology could go next.

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