Jermaine sits down with his radio hero - Zane Lowe - in Sydney for a heartfelt conversation about music, creativity, Apple Music and the craft of meaningful interviews.

Zane reflects on how music shaped his identity, why great conversations come from presence over control, and how he listens for the feeling beneath an artist’s words.

He also shares the spirit behind Apple Music, the importance of human curation, and his advice for broadcasters and storytellers trying to find their place in a changing media world.

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