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Zero Days Since… Everyone Wants A Piece – Ep. 9

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Everyone Wants a Piece: The Power of Creative Collaboration

Welcome back to another episode of Zero Days Since, the podcast where founders Chelsea and Jason journal the highs, lows, and “whiskey-fueled” breakthroughs of building a wooden purse brand. In this installment, titled “Everyone Wants a Piece,” our favorite designer-woodworker duo dives deep into the magnetic pull of creative collaboration. From local murals scaled down to the palm of your hand to the looming bright lights of New York Fashion Week, this episode is an masterclass in how to build a brand that people—and fellow artists—can’t wait to be part of.

If you’ve ever wondered how two founders stay grounded while their “Timber Totes” start showing up in airport galleries and high-end pro shops, this is the story for you. Chelsea and Jason open up about the “ego-check” moments of success, the grit required to move from a living room operation to mass production, and why they’re finally ready to “cash the check” on the glowing terms people use to describe their work.

Turning Fine Art into Designer Handbags: A New Medium

At the heart of Timber Tote’s success is a radical approach to artisan craftsmanship. Instead of just making a product, Chelsea and Jason have turned their wooden purses into a new canvas for the local art community. They discuss the evolution of their most iconic partnerships—like their first collaboration with tattoo artist Jenny (Lonely Angel), whose fine-line work was laser-engraved into the wood to create a “tattooed” aesthetic that blew consumers away.

But it didn’t stop there. The episode explores the technical and emotional journey of working with local legends like Ignacio, whose 60-foot murals were reimagined as wearable art, and Andrea, whose mural of the University of Arizona’s “Old Main” gave the brand a foothold in licensed collegiate merchandise. By offering artists a completely new medium, Timber Tote has created a “mutually beneficial” ecosystem where the art isn’t just on a wall—it’s part of a woman’s daily ensemble and personality.

The Business of Networking: Mastering Mutual Benefit

One of the most insightful segments of the episode revolves around a piece of advice Chelsea found on TikTok: “Stop entering rooms you have nothing to say in.” It’s a harsh but necessary look at small business networking. Chelsea and Jason talk candidly about the importance of laying a solid foundation before seeking out major collaborations. They argue that successful networking isn’t just about being “eager”—it’s about having something of value to offer in return.

Whether it’s navigating wholesale orders in the middle of the night or learning how to print on fabric to meet an artist’s vision, the duo emphasizes that you have to “shut up and learn” before you can lead. This philosophy is exactly why creative collaboration has become the engine of their growth; they didn’t just ask for a piece of the pie, they brought their own ingredients to the table.

Scaling the Mountaintop: The Road to New York Fashion Week

As the episode nears its conclusion, the conversation shifts to the ultimate “mountaintop moment”: New York Fashion Week. For Chelsea, this is the culmination of nearly 20 years of design study. She describes the intense, “cohesive” process of designing the purses and the dresses simultaneously, ensuring every look that hits the runway tells a singular story.

But a global stage comes with local hustle. Jason and Chelsea discuss the “crowdsourcing” efforts behind the scenes—from limited-edition NYFW shirts to the upcoming local runway show at Whiskey Del Bac. It’s a vulnerable look at the pressure of the spotlight, the fear of being “lost” in a project, and the sheer determination to stay present and enjoy the experience of a lifetime.

Join the Timber Tote Journey

We are heading to the Big Apple, but we aren’t going alone! We want our community to come along for every stitch, every “whiskey tour,” and every runway mile. Here is how you can support the brand and get a piece of the action:

  • Grab the “Meet Me in New York” Limited Edition Shirt: Help fund our NYFW journey and wear a piece of the story. Available now on our website!

  • Attend the Local Sneak Preview: We’re hosting a local runway show at Whiskey Del Bac before we head to New York. Check TimberTote.com for the upcoming date and ticket announcements.

  • Subscribe and Review: If you love hearing two founders “pretending to be professionals,” hit that subscribe button on your favorite podcast platform and leave us a comment!

    Unedited Transcript

    Jason Robinson

    What’s up everyone? We’re back. Welcome to Zero Day, since it’s the podcast where two founders journal their story of building a wooden purse brand. And we have fun doing it. My name is Jason, and I’m a woodworker.

    Chelsea Adler

    And I am Chelsea. I am a designer.

    Jason Robinson

    How are you doing?

    Chelsea Adler

    I’m so tired. I’m super

    Chelsea Adler

    low energy, but I’m doing my best.

    Jason Robinson

    Oh, we’re going to get fired up though. Yeah.

    Chelsea Adler

    This is a really fun topic today.

    Jason Robinson

    These are always, I think, an opportunity for us

    Jason Robinson

    to like kind of detach a little bit because we’re forced to for whatever time, you know, the next hour. I’ve just been able to have fun.

    Chelsea Adler

    Yeah. Just kind of. We

    Chelsea Adler

    can drink and chitchat and relax and not have to think about all the things we have to do.
    Jason Robinson
    We have a little bit of an agenda, but then we get to play a game or.

    Chelsea Adler

    It’ll be fine.
    Jason Robinson
    It’ll be fun. So and then we get to like, announce some, some cool stuff. That’s what do you call it, like maturing with the New York Fashion Week stuff and.

    Chelsea Adler

    Yeah.
    Jason Robinson
    Go from there.

    Chelsea Adler

    We did talk about New York Fashion Week. We did okay.
    Jason Robinson
    We did talk.

    Chelsea Adler

    About it. That’s not a surprise.
    Jason Robinson
    Yep. So now it’s evolving. Yeah,

    Chelsea Adler

    Yeah, it’s gonna be fun.

    Chelsea Adler

    Nice color story back there. I don’t know if you could see it on the camera or not, but those color stories back there.
    Jason Robinson
    Yeah. So you’re working through where are you at with that, I guess. Do we want to get into.
    Jason Robinson
    That’s exciting.

    Chelsea Adler

    So

    Chelsea Adler

    going into it, I was like, I’m going to design the purses and then I’m going to design the dresses.
    Jason Robinson
    Okay.

    Chelsea Adler

    That’s not how it’s coming out. No, because I was like a I was having a hard time designing all of the purses. And then because it was all coming to me at one time. So I would design the purse. And then because I think I have for that, I’m feeling really comfortable with. Okay, almost completely designed the interiors.

    Chelsea Adler

    Yeah. And then I was like, okay, but this is the dress. So then I was just naturally kind of creating the whole look mentally. Sure. So it was all kind of just happening at one time. And I think that that’s working better for me personally as a process just to make it all cohesive. Very cool. So we’ll see how that goes when it comes to technically designing it all.

    Chelsea Adler

    Yeah.
    Jason Robinson
    And these are cool. Yeah. Because because we are doing these kind of like shirts here.
    Jason Robinson
    Yes. As kind of a way of raising some funds. So you’ve been working on some of this stuff like the timber totes, limited edition
    Jason Robinson
    the shirts and now you’re getting into the actual that’s going to be on.

    Chelsea Adler

    Yeah. Because this, this situation has nothing to

    Chelsea Adler

    do with the actual.
    Jason Robinson
    What kind of talk through I think a little bit of this, but I think maybe we get into our drinks first and then we can dive
    Jason Robinson
    into that. But yeah, it’s certainly evolving and I’m going to be coming along for the ride with you as well, because I’ve never done this before, so I’m curious to see how.

    Chelsea Adler

    It goes. Yeah. You’re going to.

    Chelsea Adler

    Who’s the I’m going to make you watch The Devil Wears Prada okay.
    Jason Robinson
    Meryl Streep.
    Jason Robinson
    Yeah, right.

    Chelsea Adler

    Yeah. And we’re going to watch seasons one through three of Project Runway.
    Jason Robinson
    Okay,
    Jason Robinson
    okay. I’d get into that because I’m like, living that.

    Chelsea Adler

    Yeah yeah yeah

    Chelsea Adler

    yeah. I think after season three it got a little weird, but seasons one through three and then. Gotta love them.
    Jason Robinson
    Very cool.
    Jason Robinson
    So can we switch gears and go to the drink here? So yeah. So I don’t know if you want to just kind of pull this thing up, but.
    Jason Robinson
    Yeah. Do you want to explain it a little bit.

    Chelsea Adler

    Well it was your present.
    Jason Robinson
    You explained. Okay. So for Christmas, Mariel got me this. And so she thought, you know, it was really kind of cool. So if you look at this thing and I thought this would fit with you really well because it looks like just a bunch of books. So why don’t you pull out the first one there? So this was a set that we got I guess Mariel got it from Costco of all places.

    Chelsea Adler

    Yeah.
    Jason Robinson
    That’s what you said. So which is really kind of interesting, but it looks like books. So you pull out the first book here. Yeah. And it’s a whiskey tour of the world. So when you open it up.

    Chelsea Adler

    And there’s

    Chelsea Adler

    whiskey inside.
    Jason Robinson
    Isn’t that really
    Jason Robinson
    kind of cool? Yeah. So let’s see. Oh, Jesus. I was gonna grab the book. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So they’ve got a couple different ones.

    Chelsea Adler

    Here I want.
    Jason Robinson
    To do. Oh. Do you. Yeah. Well get it. So they’ve.

    Chelsea Adler

    Got.
    Jason Robinson
    They’ve got
    Jason Robinson
    one book that actually talks about all of the different ones that they’ve collected over
    Jason Robinson
    all the way across the world. They’ve got some Ireland here, US, Scotland, France, you know what I mean. So they’ve got and then they talk a little bit about.

    Chelsea Adler

    I’m going to break these.
    Jason Robinson
    That’d be perfect actually and give us
    Jason Robinson
    great content. Oh that’s great. Not not
    Jason Robinson
    for you.

    Chelsea Adler

    Yeah yeah yeah yeah.
    Jason Robinson
    But yeah. So but it teaches you a little bit of this and then you get a little taste and then another one of the like books quote unquote books actually had these. Glen Karen’s.

    Chelsea Adler

    Yeah is so, so cute and like clever and.
    Jason Robinson
    Isn’t.

    Chelsea Adler

    It fun right up my alley. I mean, I love anything bookish. Literally. If I could make anything relate back to books, I will. Yeah, pretty sure the one I want is in here.
    Jason Robinson
    Okay.

    Chelsea Adler

    Second edition. Yeah.
    Jason Robinson
    Oh.

    Chelsea Adler

    So I want the

    Chelsea Adler

    Black. It’s a rye whiskey. I mean, aged in American oak barrels. It’s number 11 in volume two.
    Jason Robinson
    Okay.
    Jason Robinson
    Well, you can even say a little bit about it.

    Chelsea Adler

    That’s all I have.
    Jason Robinson
    Once you get it out. No, no, no, I was going to give you the book. Oh, okay. Well, I’m getting my now.

    Chelsea Adler

    Okay.
    Jason Robinson
    Keep going. Okay. The logistics was kind of a nightmare, I think. Yeah. Give you that?

    Chelsea Adler

    We did not practice.
    Jason Robinson
    We did not practice.

    Chelsea Adler

    Okay.

    Chelsea Adler

    So

    Chelsea Adler

    I picked

    Chelsea Adler

    a whiskey from Peru, which is really fun.
    Jason Robinson
    That is fun. Okay.

    Chelsea Adler

    There it is.

    Chelsea Adler

    Okay.
    Jason Robinson
    There you go.

    Chelsea Adler

    So this

    Chelsea Adler

    is from Don Michael Distillery. It’s.

    Chelsea Adler

    The black whiskey rye. It was founded by husband and wife team Michael.

    Chelsea Adler

    Riley. And I’m going to butcher these names. I’m so sorry,

    Chelsea Adler

    Diana. It should be Diana. I feel like that’s how it’s. It’s pronounced. It’s got a lot of A’s in it, but I think it’s Diana millan Mayer. And it produces the most awarded whiskey in South America, made from Andean black corn. So it’s located just outside of Lima, Peru, and is the forefront of Peruvian whiskey innovated innovation.

    Chelsea Adler

    And it’s award winning black whiskey. Very cool. And so following the success of John Michael Black Whiskey comes Black Whiskey Rye, which makes its debut in this little tour of the world whiskey. And it’s the first Andean rye whiskey in the world, which is fun. The mash bill is 51% rye and is

    Chelsea Adler

    imported from the highlands of Colorado.
    Jason Robinson
    How
    Jason Robinson
    you gonna read the whole thing?

    Chelsea Adler

    Well, just one more thing. The barrels are heavily toasted for the distillery by Kelvin Cooperage in Kentucky and then shipped to Peru. So we’ve got a little, a little touch of kind of everywhere in this whiskey that’s.
    Jason Robinson
    Kind of all of that. That’s fun. Right.

    Chelsea Adler

    So that’s the one I’m drinking.
    Jason Robinson
    All right. Let’s say I gotta find mine. Okay. Here we
    Jason Robinson
    go. So I’m doing one from so fast I know. Right, I got lucky. Mine’s from Japan. Oh, you.

    Chelsea Adler

    Do like that Japanese whiskey. You keep you keep, like, leaning towards it.
    Jason Robinson
    I’ve gotten it before, you know, just because I have been there, too. So I was like, oh, I thought. I thought it might be cool to bring this thing back, so.
    Jason Robinson
    you know, this is just a stone’s throw away from the Osaka Bay in the fishing village of Asachi. Yeah, a Akashi. Well, I went there.
    Jason Robinson
    I didn’t learn how to speak it too much, let’s say. But it’s got a sherry cask finish. It’s got some rich vanilla and apricot on the nose, sweet and mellow spices. Then it finishes with some orange zest.

    Chelsea Adler

    That sounds so good. Wait. Can I

    Chelsea Adler

    see mine again? I want to see what my notes are going to be.
    Jason Robinson
    You’re like, can we share a thing? Nope.

    Chelsea Adler

    Toasted corn, hints of vanilla and a smoky, slightly spiced undertone.

    Chelsea Adler

    Toasted nuts and spices combined with caramel, honey and a touch of butter. Perfect.
    Jason Robinson
    That’s all good. Yeah. Let’s do this. Okay. Fun, right?

    Chelsea Adler

    Yeah. Are you just

    Chelsea Adler

    pouring the whole thing?
    Jason Robinson
    I was going to. Okay. Unless you want to go have these and then share them that way. Yeah, let’s do that. We’ll see what happens. Hey, cheers for the tour around the world.

    Chelsea Adler

    Tour around the world.
    Jason Robinson
    Right, James?

    Chelsea Adler

    Okay, let me read my quote really quick because we are talking about

    Chelsea Adler

    zero days since everyone wants a piece. Yeah. So basically what this episode is going to be about is some of the collaborations we’ve done, just what those relationships and conversations look like, some of the really awesome networking opportunities we’ve

    Chelsea Adler

    embarked upon. And, that and then how those relationships have opened

    Chelsea Adler

    us up to new opportunities that we may or may not have expected.
    Jason Robinson
    Yeah, totally. Or even just I want to throw out like a little y.
    Jason Robinson
    Yeah yeah yeah. So yeah, yeah. Let’s hear it.

    Chelsea Adler

    The quote is kind of funny. From

    Chelsea Adler

    John Jonathan Edward Durham. You ever hear somebody describe you in a really glowing terms and think, oh my God, what kind of manic episode was I having when I met this person? Like, please take it down a notch. I cannot cash that check.
    Jason Robinson
    I cannot.

    Chelsea Adler

    I cannot.
    Jason Robinson
    Catch that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that is funny.

    Chelsea Adler

    So I thought that was kind of funny and a little.

    Chelsea Adler

    Like self-deprecating.
    Jason Robinson
    Oh, yeah.

    Chelsea Adler

    So.
    Jason Robinson
    Like, it can be funny sometimes, but. Yeah, that’s that’s a good one.

    Chelsea Adler

    So anyway, yeah. So we’ve had, you know, we’ve been doing this for

    Chelsea Adler

    two years.
    Jason Robinson
    Yeah.

    Chelsea Adler

    Yeah.

    Chelsea Adler

    We’re in our third year.
    Jason Robinson
    Just started.

    Chelsea Adler

    Which is crazy. How fast, how fast it’s all gone by. But the amount of people that we have worked with and is like,

    Chelsea Adler

    so much fun.
    Jason Robinson
    Yeah.

    Chelsea Adler

    And just the people we’ve met through working with those people or, I think my favorite thing is when, you know, the, the common consumers reaction to us working with certain people and what we can do with other people’s work and how we incorporate it into the purses and stuff like that, I think is a really fun reaction to be a part of.
    Jason Robinson
    Yeah. I remember when we were
    Jason Robinson
    first starting, I guess our first real collaboration was with Jenny, you know, with lonely Angel. And so at that point, we hadn’t started doing our own liners, but what we could do with the with the laser was we were able to tone it down and do the engraving. So I was like, hey, Jenny, you know, take some of your art.
    Jason Robinson
    And so we gave her kind of the template and she was able to mock up, you know, one of her pieces of art. And so we were like, we’ll stay consistent because we were into the fabrics, but we weren’t printing our own at this point. So you were like, okay, we can take these color stains, will do these kind of liners.
    Jason Robinson
    And then she came up with a basically a
    Jason Robinson
    design that we engraved on it. And so that
    Jason Robinson
    one was really our first collaboration. And those things really blow people away when they saw those.

    Chelsea Adler

    Yeah.
    Jason Robinson
    It was like tattoo and would.

    Chelsea Adler

    Almost it was.

    Chelsea Adler

    Yeah. And I mean, her art style is so cool. Anyway, I’m obsessed with it. Yeah. And I think it was really fitting with just the overall esthetic of Timber Tote to begin with. You know, that fine line kind of art style?
    Jason Robinson
    Sure.

    Chelsea Adler

    I think it fits really well with the overall look, because it is a smaller purse and we have all these little teeny tiny lines. I don’t know, it just there’s a lot of different elements that I think fit in with hers really, really well.
    Jason Robinson
    Yeah. And it was almost like this was like an moment, I think, for the company, because all of a sudden it gave Jenny another thing, another canvas to put her art on. And it also gave her this opportunity to expand her merchandise, her selling capabilities that some people maybe don’t want to get tattooed, but they love her art.
    Jason Robinson
    This was another opportunity for her to share.

    Chelsea Adler

    That’s something that I talk with artists

    Chelsea Adler

    about all the time because since since that, we’ve we work directly with, I think at this point five. Yeah. Five artists.

    Chelsea Adler

    Yeah. And

    Chelsea Adler

    something I say to every single one of them is like, this is a opportunity for you to have a whole new medium in which people can enjoy your art, because yes, they can buy your painting, they can buy a print, they can, you know, put it on their wall and they only see it when they’re home or, you know, when they’re happening to walk by the space that they’re looking at it.

    Chelsea Adler

    And they only get to enjoy it in a very specific environment. But

    Chelsea Adler

    this way that your

    Chelsea Adler

    art into something that they can take with them everywhere that they go, yes, they take something that they resonate with that you have created, and they get to add that to their ensemble and let that be a part of their personality for that day.

    Chelsea Adler

    Yeah. Which is a huge like, compliment to the artist.
    Jason Robinson
    Yeah.

    Chelsea Adler

    Number one. And number two, it is it is such a big, like emotional response for a person to want to wear it. Yeah, because I say it all the time. Clothing is emotional. Oh, yeah. Whether you believe me or not. Well, you know, you in general. No no, no.
    Jason Robinson
    Well.

    Chelsea Adler

    And I’m.
    Jason Robinson
    And I’m starting to
    Jason Robinson
    be more understanding of that being around you girls so much more. And what you do all the time. Yeah.

    Chelsea Adler

    Every time

    Chelsea Adler

    you hear a woman say, I have nothing to wear. It’s not that she doesn’t have the clothing. It means she has nothing that matches her personality that day.
    Jason Robinson
    That is
    Jason Robinson
    a strong piece of advice I could have used when I was a teenager. Like 20 years ago. Oh, yeah. Oh, man, that would have been so helpful. Yeah, especially grown up, you know, nothing but brothers. Boy cousins. I have nothing but sons. I’m like, I have no idea. I’m like, you have plenty of jeans. No, you don’t get it.
    Jason Robinson
    I don’t know, I do.

    Chelsea Adler

    Yeah. On those days, I just, I just go to the go see outfit and then I’m good to go usually. So.
    Jason Robinson
    Nailed it. Yeah. Now. So so
    Jason Robinson
    then our
    Jason Robinson
    really our second I think collaboration that
    Jason Robinson
    I remember that was Ignacio. Yeah. And Ignacio.

    Chelsea Adler

    Is was so sweet.
    Jason Robinson
    About it.

    Chelsea Adler

    He’s been

    Chelsea Adler

    eager.
    Jason Robinson
    I mean it’s been so fun getting to know him and having him really kind of work with us. But he gave us, you know, permission to use his. And he was such an encourager. He was when he was doing it, because this was really our first try at printing on the fabric. So
    Jason Robinson
    So we were just like, oh what
    Jason Robinson
    did we use? And he was like, users.

    Chelsea Adler

    I

    Chelsea Adler

    think. I think that conversation initially with him too, felt like a bit of an moment, because I feel like we’ve had a few of those throughout the progress of this of like, this is actually something people like this is working. This could be something big. Yeah. Like we are on to something. And it’s when someone like Ignacio, who is, you know, locally famous.

    Chelsea Adler

    Yeah.

    Chelsea Adler

    I mean, like, people know who he is, really. People

    Chelsea Adler

    really admire his work. And when somebody like that is like, like, take it, include me, like, let me just be a part of it in some way. Like that felt like a really special gesture. Yeah. That he had the faith in us to be able to communicate his artwork in a, in a impactful way and then also trust us with the product itself, you know, that it was in good hands.
    Jason Robinson
    I don’t know if
    Jason Robinson
    I told you this, but one day and proper we were building some and I was like, listening, yo, you know, we’re selling some of these. I was like, you know, can we compensate you for letting us use this stuff? And he goes, I don’t want to. He’s like, no, you ain’t going to give me anything.
    Jason Robinson
    He’s like, you can buy me a drink every once in a while, but that’s about the best you’re going to do. He was like, what I really want you guys to do is run with it. Yeah, it was like, it wouldn’t. It would make nothing. Would make me more proud of letting you guys do this than to see you guys flourish and take off.
    Jason Robinson
    And so as this thing has continued to grow, I’ve just been able to see him always have like a smile whenever we’re around. Not just because his stuff, but he’s like, you guys
    Jason Robinson
    took my generosity, I guess. And he was like, you just use that as a platform to take off. And he’s like, I’d love to hear what you guys are doing and to know I was a part of helping.
    Jason Robinson
    He was like, that’s it. That’s that means so much to me.
    Jason Robinson
    Yeah.

    Chelsea Adler

    It’s been and he’s always been like, so happy to like sign one and post picture. He’s just very encouraging.
    Jason Robinson
    Well
    Jason Robinson
    in with him now here’s a unique artist. You know I mean we could we could talk for hours with each one of them in particular. But his mural is 60ft tall.

    Chelsea Adler

    Yes. Everybody

    Chelsea Adler

    knows it.
    Jason Robinson
    Yeah. So the reality of being able to have an original is so difficult. When he talks about the mural side, he does other stuff, but here we can take a real mural and we’re able to put it down into, you know, a clutch style purse and let people take it. You know, we those things always sell as soon as we make them because people love it.

    Chelsea Adler

    Yeah, yeah. They’re fun. So then who is next was.
    Jason Robinson
    Gosh, I mean, Kathleen Arthur, you know, is someone who I think comes in Ralph is there as well.

    Chelsea Adler

    Andrea.
    Jason Robinson
    Andrea, Andrea was yeah. She really, I think was the next one that saw what we were doing. And she really was like, I want
    Jason Robinson
    to be a part of this.
    Jason Robinson
    Yeah. But she was like, but she really wanted it from a business perspective. So that was the one that really, you know, we really took it off to being like how instead of just being like a can we do it or all this is helpful.
    Jason Robinson
    This was like, can we actually participate in helping in artist?

    Chelsea Adler

    That and

    Chelsea Adler

    Andrea really pushed our boundaries as far as like what we were capable of in that moment.

    Chelsea Adler

    Yeah, because we

    Chelsea Adler

    were we were just barely getting to know the fabric printer. So we were learning with her collection on how to genuinely print, you know, in a, in a effective way and then.
    Jason Robinson
    And mass.

    Chelsea Adler

    Produce and.

    Chelsea Adler

    Yeah. And between the two of us sitting in your living room with the Christmas tree in the background, 40 purses around us, and at the time we were like, we just made 40 purses in a month. And we were like, this is insane. Now we’re up to like 30 a week.
    Jason Robinson
    Yeah.

    Chelsea Adler

    So it’s like fun to like, look back on like these challenges that.
    Jason Robinson
    In the moment.

    Chelsea Adler

    Yeah. That we met and then surpassed and then that also kind of really pushed us into wholesale. Yeah. That was when we were first dabbling in it. And her orders really pushed us into that realm. And we were like, this is totally sure.
    Jason Robinson
    And it was interesting too, because
    Jason Robinson
    the the collaboration wasn’t even just about like, what can we do for her? But then the other aspect of it was the old main marcato licensing that we had. She did her own like mural of Old Main, and so she was like, hey, can, can you get me in on that? And so we actually came up with an idea, we went to the licensing department and we were like, hey, what if we made this one?
    Jason Robinson
    And now we had the rendering, so we actually rendered one, send it over the licensing, and we’re like, we’re using a local artist mural of it, but we put it into this with the U of A and they approved that. So now Andrea is able to showcase her piece through the you of a license without having to get her own license.
    Jason Robinson
    So it was kind of this work around that we were able to provide for her. Yeah. This opportunity.

    Chelsea Adler

    But that’s kind of what it comes down to is, is like the artist is giving us an opportunity to reach a new demographic. You know, by the time they come to us, they have a following, they have a client base, and we are giving them a new medium in which to showcase that artwork. They’re giving us an opportunity to reach a democratic we may not have met before, but then, you know, we also have things to offer them.

    Chelsea Adler

    Yeah, we have our own demographic. We have our own sort of other relationships that can connect with each other. So I think I just saw it. I was on TikTok. This girl was talking about, stop entering rooms. You have nothing to say in. So like, you know, networking. Yeah. You know, you you are eager and you’re you’re excited about what you’re trying to do, but you may not necessarily quite have the foundation in which to to like, jump off the deep end and like try to meet people to get help from.

    Chelsea Adler

    So you walk into a room and then you kind of don’t really have anything to offer. But like the successful people aren’t talking to people less successful than them. And the way she said it was really harsh, but I kind of liked it because it was like it was like, make sure that you are in a place where you have something that can be mutually beneficial, even if you are not as successful as the people you’re in a room with, you might still have something to offer them.

    Chelsea Adler

    So like lay

    Chelsea Adler

    your foundation down and get it ready to go, and then enter those rooms. And and if you’re not ready and you find yourself in a room, shut the hell up and listen and learn. So then the next time you’re standing in that room, you have something to say. Love it and you have something to offer.

    Chelsea Adler

    So, I think that because by the time we started working on these collaborations,

    Chelsea Adler

    we were about a year in, I think, close to. Yeah. And so we had a solid foundation of what we were doing. Sure. And then at that point we were like, how do we build on top of it? Sure. How do we expand this?

    Chelsea Adler

    Because we’re not changing the size. We’re not changing the general design of it.
    Jason Robinson
    Yeah, because we’ve been approached about that.

    Chelsea Adler

    Right. So how do we offer a different product without changing the product?
    Jason Robinson
    Sure.

    Chelsea Adler

    Yeah. And that’s where the.
    Jason Robinson
    Yeah. And so now, I mean, I mean, we could take the list. You know what Kathleen Arthurs, you know, that’s great. You’ve kind of fangirl though.

    Chelsea Adler

    I still fan girl over her. You know I love her.
    Jason Robinson
    Yeah, yeah. Great stuff. It fits the purse
    Jason Robinson
    really well. You know, just the way that the
    Jason Robinson
    designs are,
    Jason Robinson
    Ralph. In the way he integrates color with the desert, you know, and his stuff is being showcased at the airport as well. So it’s just like these iconic people to, you know.
    Jason Robinson
    And so
    Jason Robinson
    these are some from a from an artist standpoint.
    Jason Robinson
    But then we started to say, what if we did collaborations with companies, you know. And so now we’ve done wineries where they do their own labels, you know, in botanical Gardens said we want our, you know, and so and now we can cater to that stuff.

    Chelsea Adler

    So and we have the capability and we’ve and because of these opportunities that we have kind of taken and run with, we’ve

    Chelsea Adler

    put ourselves in a

    Chelsea Adler

    position where we are forced to elevate what how we do it and what we offer people. So we don’t have to have a 3D model situation, you know what I mean? Yeah. But the fact that we have the capability of it just elevates that experience.

    Chelsea Adler

    Oh yeah. So we can.
    Jason Robinson
    I mean, we
    Jason Robinson
    literally built like a whole showroom around
    Jason Robinson
    that.

    Chelsea Adler

    Yeah.
    Jason Robinson
    Exactly. Capability.

    Chelsea Adler

    So

    Chelsea Adler

    like being able to so we were like this is working. This is great. This is a really great avenue in which to, you know, center this product around and to have the capability to customize for just one person or for an entire company. Yeah. Like a huge. Yeah, offering. Yeah, yeah. To be able to say that we have
    Jason Robinson
    Ward. Now we’ve got something to give to them because, like, our newest one, like with Snuggle Bug, like
    Jason Robinson
    that wasn’t even on
    Jason Robinson
    their radar, really. They come in there and within like 30 minutes, we had one up on and she was like, dude, that’s exactly
    Jason Robinson
    what I need. And
    Jason Robinson
    now she’s even talking about other pro shops that are like, yeah, we’ll have that stuff in there.
    Jason Robinson
    And it’s like done.

    Chelsea Adler

    Yeah.

    Chelsea Adler

    So it’s fun.
    Jason Robinson
    Yeah. Now everybody wants a.

    Chelsea Adler

    Piece, everybody wants a piece. And listen, we’ve got a piece for him. Yay!
    Jason Robinson
    Love that. I was gonna switch gears a little bit. I was going to tell you this funny story just in regards to kids, so.
    Jason Robinson
    You’ve got your almost six year old. Jeez.

    Chelsea Adler

    One month. First off, three weeks.
    Jason Robinson
    How crazy is this? That when we started the podcast, like we’re talking about I turn five and now we’re like no other. Almost six, you know? Yeah, yeah. Like he’s going to grow up with this podcast talking about him. Right. And so my boys are almost 20 and 17 now. So my 20 year old he’s like, hey, he’s like mom, dad, I got a deal for you.
    Jason Robinson
    So he’s got the old lady. Okay. You know, it’s it’s it’s a car, by the way. But it’s like a
    Jason Robinson
    project car. It’s a whole thing, but it’s out in our front yard we’re trying to get. But it’s great because it’s. It’s getting him off screens, and he’s he’s working on these things and he’s got it working, but he’s like, hey, I got it.
    Jason Robinson
    He’s like, hey, I got a buddy who he’s looking for a reliable car because this isn’t. And I can get the old lady ready to go. Maybe we do a switch, but then all this stuff. Right? So regardless of what the deal is that he’s trying to make, here’s what you have to look forward to. Is Jamison
    Jason Robinson
    coming to you?
    Jason Robinson
    One day,
    Jason Robinson
    12 years from now, and he’s going to start being like, hey, I got a deal for you, mom.

    Chelsea Adler

    He’s doing that now.
    Jason Robinson
    Then you. Then you’re in bad shape.

    Chelsea Adler

    Like, I will make

    Chelsea Adler

    you a deal.
    Jason Robinson
    Yeah.

    Chelsea Adler

    I stay up for five more minutes and then you get to the. Good night.
    Jason Robinson
    Here’s my. My deals are like, hey,
    Jason Robinson
    I’ll. I’ll move some of this stuff out of the garage so I can get a project car in there to make a big mess.

    Chelsea Adler

    Yeah, the deals just

    Chelsea Adler

    get bigger.
    Jason Robinson
    Oh, my God, there’s getting
    Jason Robinson
    expensive. Yeah, and spread out so.

    Chelsea Adler

    Well, you got to like, that’s one of the things where you kind of got to find the balance where like, okay, he’s not on the screen anymore.
    Jason Robinson
    100.

    Chelsea Adler

    Percent staying up till two in the morning like playing video games.
    Jason Robinson
    Right, right. And he’s kind of bankrolling because he’s working hard. You know,
    Jason Robinson
    he’s saving
    Jason Robinson
    his money because he’s getting ready to do that aviation program. But he was like he said, this company, he was like, you know, and I was thinking through this stuff. And he was like, you know, money’s not really an issue, you know, for me.
    Jason Robinson
    And I was like, really? So is he was pitching this idea. I go and I look and I find a car lift where you get a car lift and it lifts. It’ll lift the
    Jason Robinson
    Mustang up.

    Chelsea Adler

    It’s not a forklift, but

    Chelsea Adler

    it is. I know, lift of some kind. Yeah.
    Jason Robinson
    We’re getting there, we’re getting there.
    Jason Robinson
    of. So it was
    Jason Robinson
    like three grand. Four grand, something like that. And I was like, all right, well put your money where your mouth is. What do you think of this? And he was like, he was like, that would be cool. And then Mariel was like, actually, that would be pretty cool. So I was like, oh, shoot.

    Chelsea Adler

    Like like this kind of backfiring.

    Chelsea Adler

    But I guess we’re getting.
    Jason Robinson
    I don’t know, this might actually work out. All right. So anyway.

    Chelsea Adler

    Okay.
    Jason Robinson
    Yeah.

    Chelsea Adler

    Well, on the other hand, mine is in the phase of asking a thousand questions, and I have some of them written down because they are so funny, just the way they’re like phrased some of his questions. Our

    Chelsea Adler

    nails. Part of our bones.
    Jason Robinson
    Fair enough. Do you know the answer to these questions, by the way, is we’re starting to go through.

    Chelsea Adler

    I do. Nails are not part of your bones. They’re a protein that grows out of your skin to protect your nails from when we had to, like, climb rocks.
    Jason Robinson
    And
    Jason Robinson
    time out for a second before you get into more of it. What if you don’t know the answer? Do you say, I don’t know, I say.

    Chelsea Adler

    It out. Yeah, I say I don’t know. Let’s go get it. Learn together. Okay. And then we learn. All right.
    Jason Robinson
    So you have to let us know which one of these ones you didn’t know.

    Chelsea Adler

    I will, pertaining

    Chelsea Adler

    to Sonic the Hedgehog. That’s his current obsession. Oh, yeah. Why is Eggman the bad guy?

    Chelsea Adler

    Well, because he

    Chelsea Adler

    keeps trying to take over the world and hurts on it because he wants to steal his quills. I think I understand.
    Jason Robinson
    Okay.

    Chelsea Adler

    This is when we did have to Google, and I thought it was a really interesting answer. Why are teddy bears named teddy bears? Okay?

    Chelsea Adler

    And it’s

    Chelsea Adler

    because of Teddy Roosevelt. Really? Yeah. You know, now that I’m thinking about, I can’t remember the exact situation, but there was something about Teddy Roosevelt getting a stuffed bear.
    Jason Robinson
    Okay.

    Chelsea Adler

    And it became such a, like, an iconic moment for him, like in his presidency, that they literally named the stuffed bear teddy bear. It was not it was not called a teddy bear until Teddy Roosevelt.
    Jason Robinson
    Okay,
    Jason Robinson
    that’s funny because real quick, it’s Theodore Roosevelt. Yeah. And my middle name is Theodore and so’s Avery’s. And like, we’re five generations of Theodore’s, and my dad is correct, but they call him Ted.

    Chelsea Adler

    So.

    Chelsea Adler

    So is it the Theodore Bear?
    Jason Robinson
    It could be. I guess it doesn’t just roll off the tongue. Is is good.

    Chelsea Adler

    This one caught me by surprise because I was not expecting a legitimate punchline. But he got me, and it made me laugh.

    Chelsea Adler

    What did the wall say to the other wall?
    Jason Robinson
    He said, this one with me.

    Chelsea Adler

    I’ll meet you at the corner.

    Chelsea Adler

    I was like, not

    Chelsea Adler

    prepared for him to tell me

    Chelsea Adler

    a real joke. I

    Chelsea Adler

    was like on my ass laughing. That was so funny. And it’s so funny coming from a five year old who’s like, joke is like, knock knock, who’s there at the wall? You know what I mean?
    Jason Robinson
    You like no idea where this is going to go because like, my boys, like, we’re growing. Like
    Jason Robinson
    we’re raising a house. It’s like a fart. Funny house. And so these boys, like, come to the table with, like, perfectly timed jokes, and he’s like, I’m just like.

    Chelsea Adler

    And then.
    Jason Robinson
    He has Mary Ells cracking up because the boys will drop something on me, like your mom or something like that.

    Chelsea Adler

    Yeah. It’s so funny. He’s like, he’s got he’s getting a comedic timing down. It’s

    Chelsea Adler

    pretty good. And it’s like things that I can’t really remember off the top of my head, but like, it’s so funny that moment. But one last question and it’s just showing,

    Chelsea Adler

    like his situational curiosity. Sure.

    Chelsea Adler

    We were like laying down in his head was like on my tummy.

    Chelsea Adler

    And he’s like, why does your heart move around? And I was like, it doesn’t. It stays in the same place. What do you mean? And he was like, I can hear it down here. And I was like, well, that’s just because you’re like, it’s a cavity. So you can hear the heart no matter where you listen.
    Jason Robinson
    It goes.

    Chelsea Adler

    Although it’s but it stays in the same place. It doesn’t move. He goes, okay, but if I live, if I permit, you’re here, I can hear it here. And he’s like, literally moving around to my torso, pointing out all the places he can hear my heart. And I was like, okay, but you can feel

    Chelsea Adler

    it here. And I showed him like on himself, like where he can feel his heart.

    Chelsea Adler

    And so that was a really fun little conversation.
    Jason Robinson
    Oh that’s funny. Yeah. And he’s able to, you
    Jason Robinson
    know, communicate, you know, in his curiosity. That’s fun.

    Chelsea Adler

    So and then

    Chelsea Adler

    some. Now he’s like, because there have been a lot of questions where I’ve been like, I don’t know, let’s Google it. So he’s he’s now starting to graduate from asking me the question to be like, can we can we get this? And then we do. And it’s fun. It’s cute.
    Jason Robinson
    He’s learning how to be resourceful.

    Chelsea Adler

    I know I love.
    Jason Robinson
    It,
    Jason Robinson
    I should get him introduced to ChatGPT.

    Chelsea Adler

    No.
    Jason Robinson
    Be like, hey, Jameson, please. This one will really get your mom.

    Chelsea Adler

    Out of here.
    Jason Robinson
    That’s awesome. Yeah. So that’s fun.

    Chelsea Adler

    Well. Good times.
    Jason Robinson
    Yeah. What else you got going on, though?

    Chelsea Adler

    Everything. Yeah.
    Jason Robinson
    Well, I know we’re recording, even though this will come up later, but is coming up here pretty quick.

    Chelsea Adler

    Is

    Chelsea Adler

    coming up. So we have

    Chelsea Adler

    have literally seven days until we have to be setting up for rodeo. Okay. Setting up. We have two days of set.
    Jason Robinson
    Up now for people who aren’t like from Tucson that are listening, maybe across the pond, gab he’s going to be he’s going to be like, what the hell, you guys celebrate rodeo?
    Jason Robinson
    I’m like, we do, but nobody
    Jason Robinson
    else does.

    Chelsea Adler

    He’s been Scarlett long enough to know it. Rodeo is. It’s like, okay,

    Chelsea Adler

    my family in California. So every single year my mom would take my sister and I over Rodeo break. We’d go to California and we’d visit my family in California, Disneyland.
    Jason Robinson
    And that’s when you go.

    Chelsea Adler

    Yeah, yeah, I’d be with my cousins and I’d be like, oh, it’s ready already. They’re like, you don’t have school? And it’s no, no, it’s ready. You break.
    Jason Robinson
    Yeah. What
    Jason Robinson
    the. Yeah. It’s like it’s like a and I was like Tucson holiday.

    Chelsea Adler

    You don’t shut your entire city down for the Cowboys.
    Jason Robinson
    No, no, not for the football team. Cowboys like the real Cowboys like.

    Chelsea Adler

    The literal.
    Jason Robinson
    Cowboys like rodeo. Like barrel racing. And they have a it is actually the longest running non-motorized parade, correct?

    Chelsea Adler

    Yes. And they shut it down like we.
    Jason Robinson
    Yeah, I did it in high school.

    Chelsea Adler

    If we don’t get to the the property early enough, we will not get into.
    Jason Robinson
    Our food until the parade is done. Yeah, I remember doing it. I was in marching men and I and so we would
    Jason Robinson
    march through the parade.

    Chelsea Adler

    Yeah. And I have to

    Chelsea Adler

    say, if you have not experienced it, you have to like it is such a cool week. It’s such a fun, energetic environment. It’s really, really, really cool. And I had admittedly, I had never been to the rodeo until I started doing this event with Scarlett when we merged our stores together. And, you know, I inherently got brought

    Chelsea Adler

    into it.

    Chelsea Adler

    Yeah, I’d never been because we’d always got it down.
    Jason Robinson
    But yeah.

    Chelsea Adler

    It was. I was like, I have been missing out my entire life. Like, this is so much fun. It is really fun. And then to like, go be you don’t really get to watch it if you’re working it because you’re working. But sure, there’ll be moments where I’ll steal away and I’ll go out and like, yeah,

    Chelsea Adler

    guys are insane.
    Jason Robinson
    Yeah, yeah, yeah, no, this is like the pro
    Jason Robinson
    circuit. Yeah. Like bull riders, ropers, stuff.

    Chelsea Adler

    Like that.

    Chelsea Adler

    So and it’s a really fun, high energy week. It’s exhausting. Our feet are blistered and our muscles feel like they’re going to just disintegrate by the end of it. But it’s worth every second because it’s just so fun. So we have that coming up.

    Chelsea Adler

    Yeah, yeah. And then but I’m speaking of collaborations. I’m really excited because we have some friends from Sierra

    Chelsea Adler

    Vista that we are kind of giving them an opportunity to showcase their product.

    Chelsea Adler

    Very cool. In our booth, we get to carry some stuff that we’ve never carried before by carrying their stuff. So I’m really excited about that.
    Jason Robinson
    Tim Burton’s will
    Jason Robinson
    be their rodeo team.

    Chelsea Adler

    Will be there, and then adult artisans going to be there for the first time. And so I just got to hang out with her for a little bit last night and kind of talk about it.
    Jason Robinson
    Oh very cool.

    Chelsea Adler

    This is her first year participating and I’m really excited for her. Just as a

    Chelsea Adler

    fellow.
    Jason Robinson
    She’ll
    Jason Robinson
    have her own booth.
    Jason Robinson
    Yeah,
    Jason Robinson
    that’s a big deal. Like like there’s a difference between kind of like you guys kind of carrying some of their stuff and having your own spot.

    Chelsea Adler

    So she’s

    Chelsea Adler

    going to have her own booth, and it’s her first time showing. So it’s fun to, like, kind of be somebody that can like, you know, support her through that.
    Jason Robinson
    Mentor a
    Jason Robinson
    little. Yeah. Give her some advice.

    Chelsea Adler

    I just absolutely adore Alexa so much so just as a person. So, I just kind of having just another person that another like, business owner that I genuinely adore and respect kind of be in the same environment because, you know, Tipsy Picasso will be there and forever vibe. So Forever Tipsy will be there. They’re usually like right across from us.

    Chelsea Adler

    And, Cortez, like, I don’t know, it’s just people that, like, we really like and respect.
    Jason Robinson
    And is it the same? Yeah. So. So is it the same, like vendors, I guess

    Chelsea Adler

    Yeah. You get you

    Chelsea Adler

    get grandfathered in and but there’s always new people too. So there’s always something you’ve never seen before. Sure.

    Chelsea Adler

    Because people, you

    Chelsea Adler

    know get in eventually. Yeah. So that’ll be fun then. I did get accepted into I remember a couple of episodes ago, I talked about applying for like a whole bunch of author events.
    Jason Robinson
    Yeah.

    Chelsea Adler

    I did get accepted into one. Yep. So June

    Chelsea Adler

    20th, I have an event in Ventura, California. So this is going to be my first out of state author signing event, which is like kind of a big deal for sure.
    Jason Robinson
    Do you have enough books?

    Chelsea Adler

    I

    Chelsea Adler

    will okay.
    Jason Robinson
    Because every time you go to one of these things, you sell out. No, you know, which tells me either you’re charging too little or you don’t have enough.

    Chelsea Adler

    Festival of books was an interesting

    Chelsea Adler

    experience. Told

    Chelsea Adler

    me a

    Chelsea Adler

    week before the.
    Jason Robinson
    Event that I. Well, first
    Jason Robinson
    off, you applied and they were like, no, they put you on the waiting list. Yeah, yeah. And this.

    Chelsea Adler

    Really nine days before the event, they’re like, hey, by the way, you’re in. And I was like, I have nine days. What do you mean?
    Jason Robinson
    I was not expecting that.

    Chelsea Adler

    But. So having enough books and enough product because Jenny’s going to meet me and she’s going to.
    Jason Robinson
    Go up there.

    Chelsea Adler

    Perfect. Outfit my booth out with some of her artwork. Perfect. So for anyone that doesn’t know Jenny Burkhart, the artist we were talking about our

    Chelsea Adler

    first.
    Jason Robinson
    Collaboration, the Loneliness
    Jason Robinson
    tattoo loneliness.

    Chelsea Adler

    She’s my tattoo artist and she is also my cover artist from it. So, she’s going to come. The pressure comes from trying to get book two

    Chelsea Adler

    ready.
    Jason Robinson
    That is such a long process.

    Chelsea Adler

    It’s such a and it’s the writing is long. It’s out. But then like the actual post stuff.
    Jason Robinson
    Is.

    Chelsea Adler

    So tedious.

    Chelsea Adler

    Sure. So trying to get that

    Chelsea Adler

    ready if not ready in print and ready to debut by June 20th, then at least ready for preorder. Okay, to the point where I’m comfortable accepting.
    Jason Robinson
    Preorders and this is a sequel
    Jason Robinson
    to the first one. Yes.

    Chelsea Adler

    It’s been two years coming, man. Like a lot has happened. Literally. Yeah, it’s smart, but there’s just been a lot happening, both in my personal life where I had to kind of I had to pause, take a break. Stop.
    Jason Robinson
    Yeah. You were ruined.

    Chelsea Adler

    Just got really heavy.
    Jason Robinson
    The characters.

    Chelsea Adler

    Right? I was hurting the characters.
    Jason Robinson
    Yeah. Hurting them? Yeah, I was hurting them.

    Chelsea Adler

    And I

    Chelsea Adler

    would read back and I’m like, you know, that’s not totally necessary. I felt better emotionally. Yeah, yeah, that I got that out of my system. Rewrite that.
    Jason Robinson
    That’s
    Jason Robinson
    interesting. Therapy. It is.

    Chelsea Adler

    It did.
    Jason Robinson
    Help,
    Jason Robinson
    though.

    Chelsea Adler

    It kept me sane.
    Jason Robinson
    Yeah.

    Chelsea Adler

    Yeah. So but book.
    Jason Robinson
    But now you feel
    Jason Robinson
    good. I am.

    Chelsea Adler

    Really yeah. I am really. Excited about it. So I’m super excited about it. I’m super excited about the angle that I took, the characters I introduced, the research that I put into it. So I’m really excited to get that done and ready to debut. So that’s happening. And then we’re getting ready for New York Fashion Week, which is

    Chelsea Adler

    like.
    Jason Robinson
    Well, and
    Jason Robinson
    we talked yesterday or was it today you were talking about these? I was going to ask you because I’d like to. Yeah, but I think I stole more of mine than.

    Chelsea Adler

    That’s heavy.

    Chelsea Adler

    So it’s

    Chelsea Adler

    fine. I’m good with just perfect. The I’m like sweating over here. It’s like sweating.
    Jason Robinson
    Heavy spicy. The dark rye. I hadn’t heard that one. Yeah. The I know I don’t know what I was talking about. I’m sorry. Oh the time frames.
    Jason Robinson
    You said like, there’s, like in order to meet because we’re really, we’re doing like, we’re raising money. Right. And so part of it is the shirts, you can get these shirts, the limited edition ones that’s going to help go directly towards helping, getting us to work.

    Chelsea Adler

    Fashion

    Chelsea Adler

    expensive. We have to travel.
    Jason Robinson
    Yeah there’s expenses right.
    Jason Robinson
    And we’re taking the whole team. Great opportunity. But it comes with some costs. So so we’re really kind of doing some crowdsourcing. Right. But one of the things is having that event
    Jason Robinson
    at Del Bosque,
    Jason Robinson
    which is mind blowing. I think how much fun we’re going to have at that and what a great opportunity. But my point is that’s going to happen
    Jason Robinson
    like it has.
    Jason Robinson
    We’re doing it as a sneak preview. So these things need to be done a month before. So your time frame is now well not only doubled.

    Chelsea Adler

    Up done a month before, but like I would like to have them done a significant amount of time

    Chelsea Adler

    sooner than that. Mainly because producing a fashion show isn’t just, you know, calling a bunch of girls and having them walk down a runway. There’s a lot that happens

    Chelsea Adler

    behind the scenes of producing a fashion show, and I want

    Chelsea Adler

    to be able to focus on that and create an event that people will genuinely feel excited to be at and have a lot of fun at.
    Jason Robinson
    Sure.

    Chelsea Adler

    And I’m not going to be able to focus on that the way that I want to and produce it the

    Chelsea Adler

    way that I envision it. And I know that I’m not doing it on my own. I know that I have

    Chelsea Adler

    help in that area between Ariel at Del, back between you, between Scarlett, like and I know that between all of us, we will throw a really amazing

    Chelsea Adler

    event.

    Chelsea Adler

    But I

    Chelsea Adler

    want to be able to focus on that and enjoy that part of it too,

    Chelsea Adler

    without being distracted by stitching things right before they walk down. Yeah, I mean.
    Jason Robinson
    Yeah, that’s a.

    Chelsea Adler

    Going to feel prepared and done and confident in what we’re sending down just because.
    Jason Robinson
    Well, real quick, you you’ve used the word enjoy like you want to enjoy the moment because this is such a big deal for you. So I think that is
    Jason Robinson
    an
    Jason Robinson
    interesting word choice, you know. And that’s something that we need to make sure that you don’t. Yeah. Not enjoy it because of pressure or something.

    Chelsea Adler

    I mean

    Chelsea Adler

    this comes this comes back down to just really, truly knowing and being okay with who you are as a person when you’re embarking on these really big projects like this, no matter what your industry, when you’re taking on a really big project, truly understanding yourself and the way you work and the way you internalize things is really important.

    Chelsea Adler

    And I know for a fact I can get incredibly lost and and stressed out and stuck in a project and, and then forget that, that there’s experience to come out of

    Chelsea Adler

    it and then I and then it’s, it’s

    Chelsea Adler

    over and it’s gone. And then I don’t ever get that back. And so and I’ve done that

    Chelsea Adler

    so many times.

    Chelsea Adler

    Where and this is such a huge amount and like selfishly, for me personally, as a, as a designer, as somebody who has studied this for almost 20 years, like this is such a huge mountaintop moment for me. And I just want to make sure that

    Chelsea Adler

    I am present and consciously experiencing every single moment that, like, I want to cry out, like I just I want to make sure that this is something that I will, like, look back on and like, literally never

    Chelsea Adler

    forget.
    Jason Robinson
    Yeah, you’ve got enough support around you.

    Chelsea Adler

    Even in the

    Chelsea Adler

    moments that I want to pull my hair out and I want to cry and I want to scream and I because there’s going to be those, especially if I’m behind a sewing machine.
    Jason Robinson
    Oh, no.

    Chelsea Adler

    We’re going to hear me because like

    Chelsea Adler

    crazy, if I had the sewing machine.
    Jason Robinson
    But I got to do like a wooden corset or something like that.

    Chelsea Adler

    I’m like, yeah, we’re making.
    Jason Robinson
    Like, I don’t know exactly what that even means, much less help you build it.

    Chelsea Adler

    I don’t know, I just I want to make sure. So I’m putting a lot of pressure on myself, but, so I don’t know.
    Jason Robinson
    More to come.

    Chelsea Adler

    Yeah. There’s a lot going on. There’s a lot going on. And rodeo book fashion week. My child is turning six. I have to plan a birthday party.

    Chelsea Adler

    Like.
    Jason Robinson
    Yeah, you’re helping
    Jason Robinson
    me build stuff. So.

    Chelsea Adler

    Yeah. So there’s a lot going on.
    Jason Robinson
    Well, do you want to play our game?

    Chelsea Adler

    Yeah, let’s play our game.
    Jason Robinson
    Let’s do that.

    Chelsea Adler

    I got about the game.
    Jason Robinson
    Yeah, I know we got we got fired up about fashion week, so. Well, hopefully to James we’ll have him put up like a little thing that talks about the event as well. We’ll throw that up on there as well. So if you want to know more about it. We’d love to see you guys there.
    Jason Robinson
    Yeah.

    Chelsea Adler

    There’s

    Chelsea Adler

    there’s more info on our website. Timber com. Yeah. Check that out.
    Jason Robinson
    All right. Perfect. So the game I
    Jason Robinson
    thought we would do is called. What’d you say?

    Chelsea Adler

    What’d you

    Chelsea Adler

    say?
    Jason Robinson
    So we’ve got these sound deadening headphones. So we’re going to put those things on. And then you and I have both come up with phrases that we’re going to try and get the other person to say when they have noise canceling headphones on and listening to some blaring music or something like that. And we’re going to try and figure out, well, you.

    Chelsea Adler

    Know, we’ve had a glass and a

    Chelsea Adler

    whiskey, so.
    Jason Robinson
    I know.

    Chelsea Adler

    Right?
    Jason Robinson
    So
    Jason Robinson
    that’s how the game is played. And I’m going to have you go ahead and go first.

    Chelsea Adler

    So talking or listening.
    Jason Robinson
    Okay I don’t know which one. What do you want to.

    Chelsea Adler

    Do first.
    Jason Robinson
    What what’d you say. There you go.

    Chelsea Adler

    Okay.
    Jason Robinson
    All right. So let’s see.

    Chelsea Adler

    What are you going to play?
    Jason Robinson
    What do you want to hear? I was
    Jason Robinson
    just going to put on whatever kind of jam in music.

    Chelsea Adler

    Okay.
    Jason Robinson
    There. How
    Jason Robinson
    about that?
    Jason Robinson
    Is that good? Can you hear me? Chelsea? Hey!
    Jason Robinson
    Can you hear me?

    Chelsea Adler

    Is beating Italy?
    Jason Robinson
    She’s into hockey right now, so that’s the.

    Chelsea Adler

    Okay. All right, I’m ready. Am I yelling? Yeah.
    Jason Robinson
    Yeah. You’re yelling.

    Chelsea Adler

    I’m sorry.
    Jason Robinson
    All
    Jason Robinson
    right.

    Chelsea Adler

    Sorry.
    Jason Robinson
    All right. Oh, wait. I gotta get my thing. So
    Jason Robinson
    this is going to
    Jason Robinson
    be funny because she can’t hear
    Jason Robinson
    what we’re talking about right now. All right, you ready? All right, tap that with a fuzzy hammer.

    Chelsea Adler

    Stop that. What the fuck did you just say?
    Jason Robinson
    No, not even
    Jason Robinson
    close. No. Are you ready? Tap that.
    Jason Robinson
    Tap that.
    Jason Robinson
    Yeah. Tap that with a.
    Jason Robinson
    With a
    Jason Robinson
    fuzzy hammer.

    Chelsea Adler

    A fucking hammer.
    Jason Robinson
    Almost
    Jason Robinson
    with
    Jason Robinson
    a fuzzy
    Jason Robinson
    hammer.

    Chelsea Adler

    A fugly hammer.
    Jason Robinson
    Fuzzy.

    Chelsea Adler

    A fuzzy tap. That with a fuzzy hammer?
    Jason Robinson
    Yeah,
    Jason Robinson
    that’s pretty good. There you go. All right.

    Chelsea Adler

    It’s so quiet in here.
    Jason Robinson
    You’re like yelling.

    Chelsea Adler

    It’s so quiet. Oh, it’s really loud in your head.
    Jason Robinson
    All right.

    Chelsea Adler

    Okay. You ready?
    Jason Robinson
    Okay.
    Jason Robinson
    It’s funny because
    Jason Robinson
    you can’t hear, like, how loud you’re being.

    Chelsea Adler

    Yeah.

    Chelsea Adler

    No you can’t. You’re really loud. You’re yelling.
    Jason Robinson
    What?

    Chelsea Adler

    Okay. Ready? Ready?
    Jason Robinson
    Oh, okay.

    Chelsea Adler

    A cup of coffee in the big time.
    Jason Robinson
    I’m coming off of the phone call.
    Jason Robinson
    No.

    Chelsea Adler

    A cup of coffee.
    Jason Robinson
    I’m coming off
    Jason Robinson
    the.

    Chelsea Adler

    Wiggling your head to it.

    Chelsea Adler

    Okay. Okay. A cup?

    Chelsea Adler

    I’m a

    Chelsea Adler

    cup.
    Jason Robinson
    A cup.

    Chelsea Adler

    Of coffee.
    Jason Robinson
    At the office.

    Chelsea Adler

    A cup

    Chelsea Adler

    of

    Chelsea Adler

    coffee.
    Jason Robinson
    I’m a cop.
    Jason Robinson
    A a
    Jason Robinson
    cup.
    Jason Robinson
    Couple.

    Chelsea Adler

    Cup

    Chelsea Adler

    of.

    Chelsea Adler

    Of

    Chelsea Adler

    coffee.

    Chelsea Adler

    Coffee

    Chelsea Adler

    in the big time.
    Jason Robinson
    Oh, the coffee in the big time.

    Chelsea Adler

    That’s perfect.

    Chelsea Adler

    All right. All right.
    Jason Robinson
    We’ll do a couple more. These are.

    Chelsea Adler

    Working good. Okay.
    Jason Robinson
    I don’t know.
    Jason Robinson
    I don’t think you’re gonna get this. All right. Ready? I had to hobble to the shop to buy a novel.

    Chelsea Adler

    What?
    Jason Robinson
    I
    Jason Robinson
    had to hobble to the shop to buy a novel.

    Chelsea Adler

    A couple?
    Jason Robinson
    No, I had.
    Jason Robinson
    I had.

    Chelsea Adler

    I had.
    Jason Robinson
    To hobble.

    Chelsea Adler

    To hobble.
    Jason Robinson
    To the shop.

    Chelsea Adler

    I had to hobble to the

    Chelsea Adler

    shop.
    Jason Robinson
    Yeah.
    Jason Robinson
    To buy a novel.

    Chelsea Adler

    To buy. To buy?

    Chelsea Adler

    Yeah. Okay. I had to hobble to the shop to buy.
    Jason Robinson
    A novel.
    Jason Robinson
    A a
    Jason Robinson
    novel.
    Jason Robinson
    Novel.

    Chelsea Adler

    A novel. Yeah. I

    Chelsea Adler

    had to

    Chelsea Adler

    hobble to the shop to buy a

    Chelsea Adler

    novel. Yeah. Okay. Okay. Okay, okay.
    Jason Robinson
    That’s really good. Right?

    Chelsea Adler

    All right.

    Chelsea Adler

    Should I do I should I do one that I looked.
    Jason Robinson
    Up fall out boy in the ear.

    Chelsea Adler

    Yeah. He’s got Fall Out boy in the ear.

    Chelsea Adler

    The way you yelled it. Okay.
    Jason Robinson
    Your lips don’t
    Jason Robinson
    move a lot
    Jason Robinson
    when you’re talking. I’ve noticed now. I never noticed before.

    Chelsea Adler

    I’m a mumbling.
    Jason Robinson
    You’re just like
    Jason Robinson
    this.

    Chelsea Adler

    Okay. When

    Chelsea Adler

    all else.
    Jason Robinson
    What do you call a vacuum?

    Chelsea Adler

    When?
    Jason Robinson
    When
    Jason Robinson
    when.

    Chelsea Adler

    Are you? Haven’t even let me finish the phrase before. You’re already yelling at me,

    Chelsea Adler

    When? All.
    Jason Robinson
    What do you call.

    Chelsea Adler

    When?
    Jason Robinson
    What
    Jason Robinson
    do you call a waiter?
    Jason Robinson
    No.

    Chelsea Adler

    It’s

    Chelsea Adler

    the yelling that’s.
    Jason Robinson
    Killing me. Listen.

    Chelsea Adler

    When.

    Chelsea Adler

    Wait when

    Chelsea Adler

    when

    Chelsea Adler

    when.

    Chelsea Adler

    When

    Chelsea Adler

    when all.

    Chelsea Adler

    Call

    Chelsea Adler

    else.
    Jason Robinson
    S
    Jason Robinson
    no.

    Chelsea Adler

    When all.
    Jason Robinson
    Else when
    Jason Robinson
    calling.
    Jason Robinson
    When
    Jason Robinson
    did this music
    Jason Robinson
    has thrown me off?

    Chelsea Adler

    When put on, like movements.
    Jason Robinson
    And when a couple
    Jason Robinson
    of.

    Chelsea Adler

    When

    Chelsea Adler

    all else fails, add lipstick.
    Jason Robinson
    What?

    Chelsea Adler

    When all else.

    Chelsea Adler

    When

    Chelsea Adler

    all.
    Jason Robinson
    I hall.
    Jason Robinson
    When all when I hall.

    Chelsea Adler

    When

    Chelsea Adler

    all.
    Jason Robinson
    When the
    Jason Robinson
    whole.

    Chelsea Adler

    When all

    Chelsea Adler

    whole all hall.
    Jason Robinson
    All
    Jason Robinson
    holler.

    Chelsea Adler

    Oh my

    Chelsea Adler

    God.
    Jason Robinson
    Oh
    Jason Robinson
    my God I got that.

    Chelsea Adler

    When all.
    Jason Robinson
    When are.
    Jason Robinson
    Else
    Jason Robinson
    Jesse.

    Chelsea Adler

    Else.

    Chelsea Adler

    Else.
    Jason Robinson
    Alex.

    Chelsea Adler

    Else

    Chelsea Adler

    fails.

    Chelsea Adler

    Alex. Else fails.
    Jason Robinson
    What?
    Jason Robinson
    What’s over there?

    Chelsea Adler

    I can’t do this stuff. I.
    Jason Robinson
    This is hard. I
    Jason Robinson
    don’t know. Oh.

    Chelsea Adler

    Should I change the phrase?
    Jason Robinson
    Did I change my face?

    Chelsea Adler

    Yes.
    Jason Robinson
    Okay.

    Chelsea Adler

    Should I

    Chelsea Adler

    change the phrase? Should I change the phrase?
    Jason Robinson
    I am so
    Jason Robinson
    lost right now.
    Jason Robinson
    When?

    Chelsea Adler

    When

    Chelsea Adler

    all.
    Jason Robinson
    When are all.
    Jason Robinson
    All of.
    Jason Robinson
    When are
    Jason Robinson
    all of the.

    Chelsea Adler

    When all.
    Jason Robinson
    When
    Jason Robinson
    are
    Jason Robinson
    all.
    Jason Robinson
    All of.

    Chelsea Adler

    When all else fails.
    Jason Robinson
    When all the.
    Jason Robinson
    Am I
    Jason Robinson
    even close? No.
    Jason Robinson
    When
    Jason Robinson
    is
    Jason Robinson
    it? Even when? Yes.
    Jason Robinson
    Okay. When?
    Jason Robinson
    Go. Word by word. All.

    Chelsea Adler

    Yes. Else.
    Jason Robinson
    Oh, well, now the music’s else.
    Jason Robinson
    When all
    Jason Robinson
    else
    Jason Robinson
    fails. Yeah. Okay. When all else fails.
    Jason Robinson

    Chelsea Adler

    Add lipstick.
    Jason Robinson
    Grab the headpiece.

    Chelsea Adler

    Add.
    Jason Robinson
    Ask.

    Chelsea Adler

    Add.
    Jason Robinson
    Add
    Jason Robinson
    cross
    Jason Robinson
    x
    Jason Robinson
    Jason Robinson
    x.
    Jason Robinson
    Jason Robinson
    When all else
    Jason Robinson
    fails.

    Chelsea Adler

    When all

    Chelsea Adler

    else fails, add.
    Jason Robinson
    Ask
    Jason Robinson
    lipstick. When all
    Jason Robinson
    else fails, ask

    Chelsea Adler

    Lipstick.
    Jason Robinson
    Siri just picked up
    Jason Robinson
    on the phone.

    Chelsea Adler

    When all.
    Jason Robinson
    When all else fails.

    Chelsea Adler

    Add

    Chelsea Adler

    okay. There’s minus equals.
    Jason Robinson
    Add add.

    Chelsea Adler

    Add

    Chelsea Adler

    lipstick.
    Jason Robinson
    Lipstick. Yeah.
    Jason Robinson
    When
    Jason Robinson
    all else fails, add lipstick.

    Chelsea Adler

    Oh my god I’m like so wedding right now. That was insane. Can we. I feel like I want that part, like chopped up. Like like really obnoxious.

    Chelsea Adler

    Are we doing one more.
    Jason Robinson
    Can we do one more? I got one more that I want to do.

    Chelsea Adler

    Okay.
    Jason Robinson
    It
    Jason Robinson
    better not be that horror from Skate Country.

    Chelsea Adler

    I got the second half. I got the second half.

    Chelsea Adler

    Do the

    Chelsea Adler

    first half again.
    Jason Robinson
    You know it already.

    Chelsea Adler

    Do the first

    Chelsea Adler

    half again.
    Jason Robinson
    It better not be that horror.

    Chelsea Adler

    It better not be that guy Jake.

    Chelsea Adler

    Hi, Morgan.
    Jason Robinson
    That’s. There you go. I’ll turn this.

    Chelsea Adler

    Thing off. That’s so funny. All right. Wait. I got that so fast.
    Jason Robinson
    I knew.

    Chelsea Adler

    You would.
    Jason Robinson
    You just had to get one.

    Chelsea Adler

    Of them. Oh, it’s like one of my favorite.
    Jason Robinson
    I know it’s like the.

    Chelsea Adler

    New one. Yeah, that was, like, such a fun moment. That one. And.

    Chelsea Adler

    Oh, that for Alvin?
    Jason Robinson
    Yeah.
    Jason Robinson
    Oh, that’s a good one. I shouldn’t use that one.

    Chelsea Adler

    So, yeah. All that for Albert. So

    Chelsea Adler

    if anything ever takes you a very long time to do, and there’s very little output from all the effort you’ve put in. Oh, yeah. That’s when you say all

    Chelsea Adler

    that for non.
    Jason Robinson
    Yeah. And if you’re from Tucson,
    Jason Robinson
    you know.

    Chelsea Adler

    Yeah. Yeah.

    Chelsea Adler

    If you’re coming east from west.
    Jason Robinson
    Oh just everywhere. The place is just a wreck. Yeah. I had, I saw a guy once.
    Jason Robinson
    He had a shirt and said all it said was granted Albert on.

    Chelsea Adler

    When my grandma. Okay. So my aunt moved here a few years ago from Ohio. And my grandma comes out every winter to spend time with us, you know, and get away from the snow and stuff. And the first year that my aunt had moved out here, she and my grandma had to go to Walmart, and they were telling me that they went to the Walmart on Grant and Alvin.

    Chelsea Adler

    And I said, you went where?
    Jason Robinson
    No.

    Chelsea Adler

    They were like, it’s not that bad.

    Chelsea Adler

    It’s like.
    Jason Robinson
    When did you go? It doesn’t matter. Oh my goodness gracious.

    Chelsea Adler

    Yeah. Great. And then.
    Jason Robinson
    Marielle used to work at a beaver health place right around there. So hence a lot
    Jason Robinson
    of times. Yeah. And it’s like an emergency kind of place. So people would come in their emergency, but they don’t like them. They don’t do like outpatient, you know, like, you know, a lot of stuff. So they kind of like get them stable and then they kind of let them loose, you know?

    Chelsea Adler

    So well, it’s even

    Chelsea Adler

    crazier right now because they’re doing all that construction.
    Jason Robinson
    Oh, no. It’s
    Jason Robinson
    terrible. Yeah. It’s rough.

    Chelsea Adler

    Good times. Yeah. And then when I was working at Victoria’s Secret, there was a guy on the stock team who at the time was. He was like trying to get into the police academy. And he’d done a couple ride alongs, and we learned that the, the, the police call like the, like the Dodge and like Alvin area, they call it like the black hole or something.

    Chelsea Adler

    Because once you go in for a call, you’re not coming out. Yeah.
    Jason Robinson
    Yeah.

    Chelsea Adler

    So good times. But yeah. It’s fine. Needless. Listen, it’s Tucson. We love every

    Chelsea Adler

    piece of it.
    Jason Robinson
    Hey, man.
    Jason Robinson
    Right. Love it.

    Chelsea Adler

    Every piece has

    Chelsea Adler

    some kind of character that.
    Jason Robinson
    Yeah.

    Chelsea Adler

    Distinguishes it.
    Jason Robinson
    What do you think of your of the dark Rye from. It was spicy. It is spicy.

    Chelsea Adler

    Spicy? Yeah. I wasn’t expecting it to be quite that spicy. But I did like it, I think. I think that’s one that I would prefer an ice cube in there sometimes when I don’t necessarily want the ice cube, but

    Chelsea Adler

    I think that was one that I would, I would appreciate.
    Jason Robinson
    Black whiskey
    Jason Robinson
    is what it’s called.

    Chelsea Adler

    That one was good though. The Japanese one was yummy.
    Jason Robinson
    Whiskey is just spicy in general. It can be. But then I think some of the stuff that comes from India to, I think spicy because you talked about some of that stuff ported in.

    Chelsea Adler

    Like not all of it though. Like I don’t

    Chelsea Adler

    think gel back is super spicy. Like I find double to be a little more on like the dry side

    Chelsea Adler

    almost.
    Jason Robinson
    Yeah. But rice just in general. Yeah. Anyway.

    Chelsea Adler

    Yeah.
    Jason Robinson
    Anything else? Wrapping the sucker up.

    Chelsea Adler

    Help us get to Fashion Week and buy a shirt or a ticket to our fashion show at Whiskey

    Chelsea Adler

    Back.
    Jason Robinson
    Yeah, totally. Yeah, I think I think
    Jason Robinson
    they’re super cool. You got two different ones. So there’s kind of the skyline version. Yeah, that.

    Chelsea Adler

    I’ve got more. That’s a little more neutral.
    Jason Robinson
    Yeah.

    Chelsea Adler

    This one’s a little more

    Chelsea Adler

    feminine. With the fashion sketches on there, it says meet Me in New York. Yeah. Which is a play on, Mimi and Montauk.
    Jason Robinson
    I think it’s. I think it’s great. I think it’s just a great start
    Jason Robinson
    to the fashion week journey that I’m that, you know, I think it’s something that maybe this is going to be your baby, but I. I’m trying to have the community that surrounds us experience it as well. So the fact that they get these limited
    Jason Robinson
    shirts or the timber toads, the event at Del Box,
    Jason Robinson
    everyone’s going to
    Jason Robinson
    get a chance to like come along for the ride.

    Chelsea Adler

    Yeah. And

    Chelsea Adler

    throughout the process, like I am like, if you follow our socials or even my personal socials, like I’ll do it on TikTok and I’ll probably do it on the timber toe Instagram. But, like when I’m sewing and when I’m actually draping the clothing and all that kind of stuff, like, I want to do that live.
    Jason Robinson
    Yeah.

    Chelsea Adler

    I can do all of it live because I get a little crazy. But

    Chelsea Adler

    from it I would really like to do live and kind of let people see what that looks like behind the scenes with us. So it’s gonna be fun.
    Jason Robinson
    Yeah, looking forward to it.

    Chelsea Adler

    And I have an excuse to go to LA again. So anyway, it’s the Olympics. This

    Chelsea Adler

    will be the Olympics. Will be over by the time this is so it’s the Olympics. So mentally started today and go USA. I’m a little torn because a lot of my favorite players are playing for Canada right now.
    Jason Robinson
    Oh yeah. Yeah. That’s the
    Jason Robinson
    hard part about hockey is that there’s a lot of like you know, Canadians, a lot of other countries that play in the United States hockey.

    Chelsea Adler

    Same thing with the.
    Jason Robinson
    Same thing with like the NBA two. Now they’re getting a lot of like people from other countries now. So it’s starting to make it. So you of it or a USA is not so dominant. Yeah. Yeah.

    Chelsea Adler

    Like my my team’s goalie is playing for Canada. But like my favorite goalie in the league is playing for USA. Oh very good. So you know I just hope both teams have fun. Yeah.
    Jason Robinson
    No they’re looking to go in whoop ass on the gold.

    Chelsea Adler

    The USA Women’s League is killing it. So,

    Chelsea Adler

    we’re on a good run for that. So, anyway.
    Jason Robinson
    New
    Jason Robinson
    of a, it’ll be the end of March, so we’ll see.
    Jason Robinson
    Solid year. So Final Four is the. Oh, that’s the Epsilon.

    Chelsea Adler

    Go sports.
    Jason Robinson
    Bar sports.

    Chelsea Adler

    All right okay cool.
    Jason Robinson
    Well
    Jason Robinson
    that does it for this episode. You know obviously if you guys subscribe that always helps the channel grow. If you can hit that like button that does tell us a little bit that you actually like the content that we’re also that we’re making here. And then if you could make some comments to maybe something else that you want to hear, you can go to zero or to the Timber Tote Purse website.
    Jason Robinson
    If you go on the zero day since little tab and scroll to the bottom, you can actually write something about your own self. So we’d love to hear about your own zero day sense story. Yeah, but stay tuned into our next podcast where we do Zero Day since we had to talk to an attorney.
    Jason Robinson
    So we’re going to have some fun with that one as well.
    Jason Robinson
    Or not. Yeah, but you can also follow us on the Instagram as well. And I guess that’s it. So we’re signing off. But this is zero days since pretending to be professionals. And we’ll see you on the next one.

    Chelsea Adler

    Bye.

     

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