On this episode of ZEROPOD,  we sit down with Derek Brown, the mad scientist developer and founder behind the upcoming agentic onchain game called Native.fun, built on top of the Clanker protocol on Base. 

We had a blast getting to know Derek and hearing his story, from working as a rural midwest minister to coding in the halls of the some of the biggest tech companies in Silicon Valley, and then striking out to build tech startups of his own. His vision for Native is wild and ambitious, and we can’t wait for you to learn all about it! 

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TIMESTAMPS:

0:00 - Introduction: Positive-Sum Environments

1:15 - ZEROPOD Intro & Guest Introduction - Derek Brown

2:00 - Derek’s Fun Fact: Three Daughters, Same Birthday

3:09 - From Dupont Brat to Tech Builder

7:01 - Discovering Programming

7:06 - A word from our sponsor: Clanker.world

9:00 - The Journey to Tech: From Ministry to SV

18:12 - Tough Times & Family Resilience

24:00 - Getting Into Crypto: Bitcoin at $300 and Satoshi’s Whitepaper

31:01 - The Base vs. Solana Debate: Values & Coexistence

36:00 - The Origin of Clanker and Its Influence on Native

44:00 - What is Native? Sim City Meets Onchain Economies

51:00 - Dots Explained: AI Agents in the Digital City

58:00 - Tokenomics Deep Dive: Fees, Buybacks, and Sustainability

1:06:00 - The User Experience: MVP, Maps, and Gameplay

1:11:00 - Passports & Stamps: Proof of Humanity in Native

1:12:46 - Final Thoughts & How to Get Involved 

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Podcast recorded by Toady Hawk, edited by Toady Hawk, JackWyldes and Santhosh. Hosted by Toady Hawk. Music by Toady Hawk, SuperTightWoody & Suno AI. Ad spot by JackWyldes. Produced by Zero Rights Media. 

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