Julie and Savannah talk about how they met and how sharing a dream idea through email correspondence led to the creation of a podcast together From the chance meeting of a movie watch party after party, to a courteous exchange of pleasantries, to the sharing of an idea too big for either Savannah or Julie to tackle alone, this is their hopeful start of something big and important for male-to-female (MTF) crossdressers everywhere.... Welcome to the first episode of The Fox and the Phoenix.