In this episode of the Proclaim podcast, Brett and Jason talk with Fr. James Mallon of Divine Renovation about what it really means to be a missionary disciple, and why a missionary disciple might choose to use a resource like Alpha to help others encounter Jesus. This is Part 1 of 3 episodes with Fr. James Mallon.

Some moments of particular interest in their conversation:

1:22 Fr. James shares his own conversion story, and how the passion that came from it drives his ministry

4:26 The kind of motive that must “ground” our evangelizing mission

5:43 What really makes a missionary disciple

8:40 The universal call to holiness and mission, and what happens when we neglect the second part

11:30 How Jesus models perfectly for us how being relevant does not mean abandoning the essence of who we are

14:42 Why we must lead with evangelization with people who have not yet fallen in love with God

18:12 Is Alpha Catholic?

22:22 The distinction between feeding sheep and catching fish

24:15 Why it is actually an advantage that Alpha comes from outside the Catholic Church

Takeaway quote:

“If your investment in growth as a missionary doesn’t keep pace with your growth as a disciple, 3 things happen: you become weird, judgemental, and irrelevant.” - Fr. James Mallon

Want to watch the interview? View it here.