This episode is all about identity shifts, finding new purpose, and doing inner work with former NFL Center, Joe Hawley.

We chat through Joe's identity as a pro athlete and how that shifted post-retirement. We talk about inner childhood traumas, opening up about our inner fears, and how we're both becoming different men.

You can learn more about Joe and his journey by following him on https://www.instagram.com/joe.hawley/

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