Dave and Mike get a bit wonky without Nephi around to keep them in check. They break down Botswana's recent decision to allow elephant hunting. Other topics include: hunting threatened species, applying the Endangered Species Act overseas, the fact that neither Mike nor Dave have been to Africa, whether U.S. citizens should rush to hunt Botswana, and a human dimensions comparison between elephants and grizzly bears. All of this without actually taking a position on elephant hunting. Tune in!