I love love love this conversation with Katie and Andrew May from the Allegory and Elm podcast. We talk about life and the curveballs that life throws at you and how to be prepared: what the number one thing every entrepreneur needs to have to succeed in times like these. They have managed to overcome death, miscarriage, an affair and broke away from their faith to pursue the unknown and do life on their own terms. We talk about what it takes for them to keep their love and their businesses running, how to be parents amid it all and finding the gratitude and love that acts as the support and foundation for a life well lived. Go to tanyadube.com/blog for the shownotes.