It’s often the case that NGOs, philanthropists and funders want to help grassroots groups. But how do you fund a movement which has no leader, no address, and no bank account?

And on the flip side, movements might be conflicted about taking this help. What if they're co-opted and their values are diluted, or what if more admin and professionalism upsets the volunteer-led spirit at the heart of what they do?

This month we spoke to two people who are part of networks which are working through these very issues with help of our incubation and accelaration programme called Nest.

In the first part of this episode, we speak with Will Nicholson who is part of a local health and wellbeing network called the Lambeth Portuguese Wellbeing Partnership. In the second part, we chat with Jake Woodier, campaigns officer at the UK Schools' Climate Network.

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Hosts: Kate Edwards, Esther Foreman and Sapna Patel
Guests: Will Nicholson and Jake Woodier
Producer: Maria Mancuso
Theme music by Loyalty Freak Music