NOTE: This episode deals with a topic that may be triggering for some listeners.

What happens when Savannah surprises Julie with a topic that Savannah knows is one she and Julie disagree on? Well, in the second of this two-part episode, Savannah and Julie uncomfortably tackle the issue of what the term Transgender means. Savannah has her point of view from her experience and research while Julie brings to bare her own quality time and consultation  with her transgender clients. While their points of view may differ, both Savannah and Julie come to the podcast table with the truth as they understand it in their hearts.