So I want to give you a little background on how we even came up with us. I want you to really meet my good friend and co-host, and my daughter from another mother, Heather. So what happened was Heather came over for dinner tonight, we were supposed to be talking about some podcast-related stuff, and what you need know about Heather is she meets my needs hugely for laughter and fun. In fact, she has done and really loves to do comedy, she likes to make people laugh, and this podcast is more about information than laughing, so she asked me, do you enjoy doing the podcast? And I responded Well, yeah, I kinda do. But it is work. And then she came clean. And what she came clean with... I'm going to leave that as a cliffhanger for you to find out for yourself in this episode.

Key Points Discussed:

• Today, we're going to do something just a little different because Heather really needs to be heard tonight, and we thought it would be kind of fun to set the alarm for 10 minutes and just riff like have no agenda, other than let Heather get heard. And if you've been following our podcast, you know it's all about connection, and connection is about the empathy process, and the empathy process all at NVC is making sure people are seen, heard and valued. (04.22)
• Coming into this house usually brings me joy, great joy, just the sheer magnitude of the joy is unreal. And then when I have to come over for this, I think about it, I want to be like, Yeah, that's exciting, it meets my needs for creativity and fun and play. I'm like, Oh God, I'm going to have to sit in the chair. I'm going to have to be present and then I'm going to have to edit the unintelligible gables that comes out of our mouths. So yes, you want me to know that you really love to come over to my house typically, but since we've been doing the podcast, you're having a little bit of aversion to coming here and thinking about sitting in that hard chair and then editing all the stuff that we say so that it can sound professional to everybody. (05:53)
•  Anyways, back to your empathy, because that was a side bar, not empathy for those of you that are...a conversational response, that was another conversation response. I don't know which one. Refuting, trying to distract from my suffering. (08:46)
• So maybe just feeling a little bit perplexed on how to go forward and make sure that you get some fairness around your finances in the circumstance... Yeah, integrity was really a big one, and you know what's interesting to me, as much as we've been laughing, you sound different in your voice, and I don't know if the listeners can pick up on that, but there's something that has changed in your tone of voice, and I'm wondering, I just want people to know that that's what happens with empathy. (16:31)

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