How do you build a life you don’t need a vacation from?

That’s why we become creators, right? To skip the 9-5, work for ourselves, help others, and live our dream?

To answer the question, Matt interviewed long-time friend and HeyCreator Summit speaker Khe Hy — the perfect person to answer this question, because he walked away from a $2 million salary on Wall Street for a life of surfing, family, entrepreneurship and creating.

As you’ll hear, Khe optimizes his life for ALIVENESS and drops gems throughout this fun & insightful conversation.

(0:00) — Intro

(1:00) — Pivoting away from what doesn't serve you

(4:40) — Optimizing for aliveness

(9:49) — Why you need to experiment

(17:46) — The death of the follower

(27:58) — Everyone wants to be the noun, nobody wants to do the verb

(33:23) — How much Khe made on Wall Street vs. becoming a creator

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