Our first guest! Joe Buscarino of the NOT WITHOUT NUANCE podcast sits down with Pat Shand & Amy Shand to talk about: 2Pac as a top lyricist, Erykah Badu's controversial hot take, Lil Dicky's new single, Mars travel, and if conversation is or isn't a cosign.

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Music written and performed by Amy Shand.

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