It has been a month, and many parents are starting to reach a breaking point with their kids. Perhaps some reached that point a while ago.

Katie and Daniel talk about how they have been spending their 'home time' with their four kids, and discuss some of the ways they have used this crisis to actually bring some benefit. They discuss their routine, their communication strategies, and how to actually get some alone time when self-isolation actually starts to feel crowded.

If you're trying to see some of the ways to make the best of a tough situation, have a listen (you've got the time)