In this episode I’m joined by Katya Rucker, host of the I’d Rather Be Podcast. In our conversation we talk about hobbies. We discuss how having hobbies is connected to our sense of wellbeing, the ways in which hobbies add a sense of contentment and fulfillment to our everyday lives, how to get past the discomfort of being bad at something when we first start out, how to make the time to invest in hobbies and why it's important that we do, and how to prioritize the activities we enjoy in a world that values achievement and productivity over everything else.

Find Katya's podcast "I'd Rather Be" on any platform you listen to your podcasts.