When kids come out as trans, there is often, but not always, a progression to it.

It is not at all uncommon for kids–particularly adolescents–to start with coming out as gay, and then progress into a non-binary identity, and then to a re-binary identity.  

But not everyone takes that route. And a lot of kids and adults discover the concept of non-binary or something similar and go, “Yes! This is me - finally.” 

There are so many labels in the gender universe, and because it is continuously evolving, it makes continuous learners out of all of us.

My hope is that as people hear more gender journey stories like today’s guest’s, an awareness will be built and that more and more people will feel confident going on a journey of gender exploration.

Today’s campfire conversation is with Jeffrey Marsh. Jeffrey is a viral TikTok and Instagram star, nonbinary activist, and LGBTQ keynote speaker. Jeffrey was the first nonbinary public figure to appear on national television, being interviewed on Newsmax in 2016, and Jeffrey was the first celebrity activist to use they/them pronouns. Jeffrey’s #1 bestseller, ‘How to Be You,’ was the first nonbinary memoir. And Jeffrey is the first nonbinary author to sign a book deal with any “Big 5” publisher worldwide, for Penguin Random House. Jeffrey Marsh’s TikToks and compassionate short-form videos have over one billion views. 

Check out the full episode to hear about:

• Jeffrey’s perspective on self-kindness and self-love as a lifelong relationship
• The role parents play in helping their kids with the realities of being LGBTQ+ in the world
• Why you can’t, and shouldn’t, shield your kiddos from everything
• How non-binary identity creates a dialogue

Find out more about Jeffrey Marsh:

• JeffreyMarsh.com
• Instagram: @theJeffreyMarsh
• TikTok: @theJeffreyMarsh
• How to Be You: Stop Trying to Be Someone Else and Start Living Your Life

Find out more about Mackenzie Dunham:

• Wildheartsociety.org
• wildheartsociety.org/downloads
• Wild Heart Society on Facebook
• Wild Heart Society on Instagram

Resources:

• Guanyin - Wikipedia