Elisabeth Braw is a columnist at Foreign Policy, a senior fellow at the Atlantic Council, and the author of "Goodbye Globalization. 

In this episode, Elisabeth and I talk about what globalisation is and why we are saying goodbye to it as we know it, why we should trade with countries similar in values, the different approaches taken across the West in dealing with the end of globalisation, why ESG is having a negative impact on the defense sector and Western countries' ability to defend themselves, and why the West's liberalism blinded it to other countries' cultures and priorities.

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