Have you ever seen a client’s name pop up on your phone — and before you even read the message, your chest tightened?

Not because you did anything wrong.
 But because deep down, you already knew what it wasn’t.

It wasn’t payment.
 It wasn’t closure.
 It was another “we’re almost there”.

In this deeply honest episode of The SILL TALKS Podcast, Egbeiyon Leonard opens up a conversation every architect has lived but rarely talks about, the quiet, exhausting reality of being constantly owed.

This episode isn’t about bad clients.
 It’s about good architects operating without structure.

Through real-life stories, familiar scenarios, and hard-earned lessons from practice, this episode explores:

• Why architects often end up chasing payments — even after doing everything right
• How early career habits quietly train clients to delay commitment
• Why clients struggle to see the real value of architectural work
• How scope creep sneaks in unnoticed and slowly drains your time and confidence
• The emotional cost of always “being patient”
• And the moment clarity finally replaces endurance

You’ll hear real stories about:

• Refusing to start work without mobilization — even when it caused conflict
• Walking away from projects that don't value your input,
• And why choosing peace over persistence became a defining moment in practice

Most importantly, this episode offers calm, realistic shifts,  that help architects protect their value, their energy, and their future without becoming rude, arrogant, or difficult.

If you’ve ever wondered:

“Is this architecture  even worth it?”

This episode is for you.

Take a breath.
 You’re not alone.
 And it doesn’t have to stay this way.

🎧 Listen now.

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