Lane and Aaron Francis sit down to talk about Laravel and PHP, and why everyone who uses them tends to make a lot of money. There seems to be something to avoiding the technical hype cycle and just shipping web apps that people want to use.

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Aaron Francis' SQL Course: https://planetscale.com/learn/courses/mysql-for-developers/introduction/course-introduction
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