Today I'm talking with producer and director Laurice Bell. We go way back to our roots in Evanston, IL. We begin this conversation with the word "Sawubana", a Zulu greeting for "we see you" to talk about being in community at these times. 

Laurice's podcast is Evanston Rules. Find it at https://www.evanstonrules.com

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