Astrologer Gabriel Rosas sits down with host Jenn Zahrt to chat books and more! Laugh and learn with these two friends as they cover: Project Hindsight; hermetic lots; the concept of time as nonstationary; breaking the modern spell of how the world exists; the lost delineation of the meaning behind each arc minute; how circumstances and conditions can force action; knowing our charts well; finding the teacher within; profections; and being under the beams of the Sun. Plus: true crime astrology, walking versus hiking, and… drink your water, people!

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Episode timestamps (conversation recorded Feb. 2024):

00:31 – Gabe Rosas has been studying traditional astrologies for over 20 years. He started with Robert Zoller’s medieval astrology course, and later became a pupil of Robert Schmidt at Project Hindsight. Gabe’s practice of Hellenistic astrology seeks to bring the wisdom and worldview of antiquity to people living in the modern world. Gabe spoke at the Northwest Astrology Conference (NORWAC) in 2023; if you see him at the upcoming NORWAC 2024, get within orb and say hi!

01:05 – Gabe’s first astrology book was Linda Goodman’s Sun Signs, which he found in the library as a kid. Later, after taking astrology more seriously, he read Horoscope Symbols by Robert Hand, which he found to be a considered, logical book on a complicated topic! (And a high five to Robert Zoller, one of Gabe’s teachers, and specifically the title The Lost Key to Prediction: The Arabic Parts in Astrology

that Jenn mentioned!)

09:50 – If Gabe were trapped in an escape room, which books would he bring? First, Vettius Valens’s The Anthology is a must! Gabe finds much value in the way that Valens teaches through this text.

11:50 – Interlude: Join CAELi as a trial member and snag yourself a Saturn stress-relief ball. (Yes, you read that right!)

12:36 – Gabe’s second title would be Mathesis by Julius Firmicus Maternus, which has been translated into English by James Herschel Holden (AFA) and also Ben Dykes (Cazimi Press). Gabe finds that Firmicus includes pieces that are missing from Valens’s tome; they work well together!

21:55 – Gabe’s third book is Robert Schmidt’s out-of-print Definitions and Foundations, which is Schmidt’s reconstruction of fragments of Antiochus’s works scattered throughout other Hellenistic sources. This was Robert Schmidt’s last book, and the collation includes helpful comments related to his reconstruction of the original text.

28:05– Start at the beginning! Gabe’s recommendation is that beginners start with traditional astrology, and therefore points to Demetra George’s two-volume set Ancient Astrology in Theory and Practice: A Manual of Traditional Techniques. Other titles for folks new to astrology include On the Heavenly Spheres by Helena Avelar and Luis Ribeiro, as well as the previously mentioned works of Valens and Firmicus (but start with Valens). Want to read Schmidt’s Antiochus? Come to CAELi, where this hard-to-find text is waiting just for you!!

29:29 – Find Gabe at: https://www.gabrielrosasastrology.com/, and @gimelresh on social (Threads and X).

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Show notes by Jen Braun, JJ Boots Productions LLC.