Two Besties with a Mic

037 What Do You Wish You Knew Five Years Ago?


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We're back with part 3 of our 4-part mini-series—and this one is a deep dive. Kelsey and Devan reflect on where they were five years ago (yep, March 2020), and the powerful life, business, and self-worth lessons they’ve learned since.


From quitting jobs, starting businesses during a pandemic, and unlearning perfectionism to building boundaries, battling body image, and breaking free from victim mindsets—this episode is full of real talk and raw growth.


In this episode, we unpack:

  • Where we were in March 2020 and how the pandemic impacted our lives and businesses

  • The mindset traps we didn’t even know we were stuck in

  • How perfectionism, external validation, and fear of rejection held us back

  • The advice we’d give our younger selves (and maybe you need to hear it too)

  • What it means to wake up and stop living for everyone else

  • The things we thought were “the way” that we now know were so wrong


This is your permission slip to:

  • Say no more often

  • Stop waiting for someone else’s approval

  • Let go of the people who give you the ick

  • Take up space even if you don’t “look the part”

  • Choose yourself—every damn time


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  • A $50 gift card to Kelsey Deru Aesthetics

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Favorite quotes from this episode:

  • “Maybe those butterflies are actually snakes.”

  • “The people who make you feel uncomfortable for no reason? Trust it—and run.”

  • “I don’t need you to like me to know I’m worthy.”

  • “Looking inward is the first step to waking up.”


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Two Besties with a MicBy Devan Robinson and Kelsey Darou