Jason Moore and Ephie Risho wrap up their epic journey through Transformed by Marty Cagan with a bang. In this finale, they tackle the biggest question of all: how do you actually change a company stuck in outdated ways into one that hums with agility, clarity, and purpose?

We’re talking real-world transformation, from creaky org charts and waterfall habits to sleek, empowered product teams. They dig into Adobe’s power-up from CD-ROMs and 2-year release cycles to a lean, mean, agile machine that boosted its bottom line and left shrink-wrapped boxes in the dust. Along the way, they share their own battle scars, success stories, and the occasional snarky aside—because changing a company might be hard, but talking about it doesn’t have to be boring.

Grab your headphones and let’s demystify the transformation game, one product team at a time.

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