Forming a connection when working together in finance roles for a big global company, Lucy Starbuck and Jayani Samaranayake found that most of their conversations centred around “If you thought about the person first, the outcome would be different”. They brought these conversations to life in their podcast ‘The Steam Engine’ where they talk about value based management with a people-focused mindset.

In the latest episode of Real Talk With Outperformers, Brad chats with Lucy and Jayani about culture, diversity, leadership, management, people and values in the workplace