How one woman found the secrets to business success while mountaineering on Everest! We're Making Conversations about mountaineering Count!

"Winners never quit is a terrible maxim. You should absolutely quit in all sorts of situations......" Cathy O'Dowd, Making Conversations Count (December 2021)

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The team behind "Making Conversations Count" always like to move mountains to bring you the most inspirational business-themed conversations.

And in this episode we're being literal.

Are you wild about nature?

How far would you go to see the dizzying heights of the world? 

We're joined by a lady who thinks like an explorer and actually speaks about where mountains meet management.

Cathy O'Dowd can claim she has climbed the mountain.

And not just once.

She's done it twice, on both sides!

She has also adventured the Himalayans defying the elements.

None of this could be done alone.

As part of a team with the same goal to get to the top and down alive, she's been shown the many faces of ability and skills.

And all are translatable to business.

Listen to learn why mountaineering shares so many things in common with business.

And learn Cathy's key takeaways for how you can apply the business learnings Cathy has taken away at 29 thousand feet on the side of a mountain!