Astrologer, author, and podcaster Frederick Woodruff joins host Jenn Zahrt from Vashon Island in Washington for a comprehensive, buoyant chat that includes must-have astrology (and non-astrology) books, musings on Saturn and writing, and more! Tune in to hear about: working with Ivy Goldstein-Jacobson as a teen; the mystery of unfoldment; questions related to the mechanism of divination; horary astrology; falling in love with “wrong” astrology; pondering the origin of consciousness; consultation styles; quadrant versus whole sign houses; using a psychological lexicon; the hidden prescreening upside of pop astrology; how writing about Saturn is like pulling teeth (Hah! Good one, Saturn!); and posthumous astrology. Plus: Princess Diana’s (incorrect) chart, breaking up with a serial killer, and… did women invent astrology?

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Episode timestamps (conversation recorded Aug. 2024):

01:23 – Frederick Woodruff uses astrology as next-level psychoanalysis… of the culture, the arts, and the individual. He’s the House astrologer for Corridor Menswear NYC. Frederick’s fictional romance novel on Jeffrey Dahmer will be arriving soon, so stay tuned!

02:25 – Frederick’s very first astrology book was Linda Goodman’s Sun Signs, which was available in his house as a kid; the idea of having insight into people because of birth signs intrigued him. Later, the musical Hair captivated him (with “the age of Aquarius”) and led him on an odyssey of tracking down an astrology teacher!

06:06 – If Frederick could bring only three books to a deserted island, what would they be? First up would be The Moment of Astrology: Origins in Divination by the late Geoffrey Cornelius, because it offers a “before” and “after” in the ladder of astrological learning.

12:25 – Frederick’s second choice would be one that is not specifically focused on astrology! William Irwin Thompson’s Coming Into Being: Artifacts and Texts in the Evolution of Consciousness is a rich text offering fascinating insights into the topic of consciousness.

16:12 – The third title Frederick would bring is The Astrology of Transformation: A Multilevel Approach by Dane Rudhyar. This good, solid read is the culmination of Rudhyar’s cosmology. (And enjoy the throwback which is mentioned – Episode 51, Travis Black: On the Least Worst Astrology & More!)

19:47 – Interlude: Join CAELi and snag yourself a Saturn stress-relief ball. (Yes, you read that right!)

20:33 – For beginners, Frederick recommends Astrology for Lovers by Liz Greene. Why the unusual pick? The first part of Greene’s book encapsulates astrology in a gifted way. Also, the exploration of the signs is unmatched!

26:11 – Learn about Frederick’s upcoming romance novel about Jeffrey Dahmer!

34:57 – Find Frederick at his website: www.frederickwoodruff.com. Learn about his upcoming Dahmer book on his Substack page. And check out his podcast, The Rage of Aquarius!

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Show notes by Jen Braun, JJ Boots Productions LLC.