Where is the line between what can be attributed to the placebo effect & the supernatural? We discuss that, Jesse almost dying, ruined blunts, a literal cowgirl, tattoo ideas, good genes, wisdom teeth removal, the roots of our spice days, Jesse's poor Neon, missed opportunities in life, the art process, Jesse's crazy trip to Austin, numbing your throat for porn, a former lover/psycho, getting a 'limpia,' being cursed & ridding yourself of a demon we called upon us, using the ouija, sleep paralysis, creepy basements, an undying zombie dog, our surface knowledge of dark matter, extra-dimensional beings, an apparent connection to the other side, & other creepy things.