In this episode, Julie brings up a recent consultation with a young trans person who bristled at the words crossdresser and persona. This young person has always considered herself a woman and didn't want her existence reduced to that of a crossdresser. Savannah gets the tiniest bit triggered by the comment but she and Julie go into a deep intense dive to better understand the repulsion or attraction of the term of crossdresser as it affects one's own sense of self. From disliking the idea of trying on a wig to challenging each other about what motivates our perceptions of labels--for ourselves and for others--our co-hosts leave it all on the table for you!

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SAVANNAH HAUK is the author of “Living with Crossdressing: Defining a New Normal” and “Living with Crossdressing: Discovering your True Identity“. While both focus on the male-to-female (mtf) crossdresser, “Defining a New Normal” delves into crossdressing and relationships and “Discovering Your True Identity” looks at the individual crossdressing journey. Her latest achievement is a TEDx Talk entitled "Demystifying the Crossdressing Experience". Savannah is a male-to-female dual-gender crossdresser who is visible in the Upstate of South Carolina, active in local groups and advocating as a public speaker at LGBTQ+ conferences and workshops across the United States. At the moment, Savannah is working on more books, blogs, and projects focused on letting every crossdresser–young and mature–find their own confidence, expression, identity and voice. 

IG @savannahhauk | FB @savannahhauk | FB @livingwithcrossdressing | web @livingwithcrossdressing.com 

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JULIE RUBENSTEIN is a dedicated ally to transgender community and the certified image consultant and co-owner of Fox and Hanger. F&H is a unique service for transgender women and male-to-female crossdressers that creates customized virtual fashion and style “lookbooks”. Julie intuitively connects with each client to find them appropriate clothes, makeup, hair, and shape wear all in alignment with their budget, body type, authentic style and unique personality. Julie also provides enfemme coaching and wardrobe support. Julie has made it her life’s work to help MTF individuals feel safe and confident when it comes to their female persona, expression and identity. 

IG @Juliemtfstyle | FB @foxandhanger | web @FoxandHanger.com