In this episode, Julie regales Savannah with stories of clients who have a specific viewpoint of when they consider that they themselves are crossdressing. What follows is a mind-blowing pivot of what everyone has defined the term crossdressing... that crossdressing means you are dressing in clothes defined for the opposite gender. What if, though, crossdressing was not about dressing opposite of your biology, but instead opposite of your gender identity? What if crossdressing was what you were doing when dressing as a biological man even though you always considered yourself psychologically a woman? Is it still considered crossdressing if you were masquerading in boy's and men's clothes because you wanted the world to accept you and keep you safe, just because you were born in the masculine gender? Julie and Savannah dig deep into their experiences and intellect to turn another demystifying topic on its earring and on its heels!

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SAVANNAH HAUK is the author of “Living with Crossdressing: Defining a New Normal” and “Living with Crossdressing: Discovering your True Identity“. While both focus on the male-to-female (mtf) crossdresser, “Defining a New Normal” delves into crossdressing and relationships and “Discovering Your True Identity” looks at the individual crossdressing journey. Her latest achievement is a TEDx Talk entitled "Demystifying the Crossdressing Experience". Savannah is a male-to-female dual-gender crossdresser who is visible in the Upstate of South Carolina, active in local groups and advocating as a public speaker at LGBTQ+ conferences and workshops across the United States. At the moment, Savannah is working on more books, blogs, and projects focused on letting every crossdresser–young and mature–find their own confidence, expression, identity and voice.

IG @savannahhauk | FB @savannahhauk | FB @livingwithcrossdressing | web @livingwithcrossdressing.com

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JULIE RUBENSTEIN is a dedicated ally to transgender community and the certified image consultant and co-owner of Fox and Hanger. F&H is a unique service for transgender women and male-to-female crossdressers that creates customized virtual fashion and style “lookbooks”. Julie intuitively connects with each client to find them appropriate clothes, makeup, hair, and shape wear all in alignment with their budget, body type, authentic style and unique personality. Julie also provides enfemme coaching and wardrobe support. Julie has made it her life’s work to help MTF individuals feel safe and confident when it comes to their female persona, expression and identity.

IG @Juliemtfstyle | FB @foxandhanger | web @FoxandHanger.com