Astrologer, therapist, and author Mark Jones joins host Jenn Zahrt from Wales in the UK! This deep and personal conversation covers lots of ground, including: how the archetypes evolve, including Saturn’s cultural and historical changes; the observer effect and attention as a moral act; the astrological worldview understood on a serious level; the natal chart as where you start, not where you finish (and the unfoldment of your engagement with it); the humanistic perspective as a grounding for the transpersonal; and Mark’s experience studying with author Jeffrey Wolf Green. Plus: the tree of life and Kabbalistic astrology, the map of the path, and knowing about an experience versus living it!

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Episode timestamps (conversation recorded February 2025):

00:31 – Mark Jones is an astrologer, psychosynthesis therapist and hypnotherapist based in South Wales and works with clients and students all over the world. Mark is a regular speaker and workshop leader in North America. Mark’s first book explains his approach, Healing the Soul: Pluto, Uranus and the Lunar Nodes. Mark’s second book, The Soul Speaks: The Therapeutic Power of Astrology, explores the transformative power of the natal chart reading. Mark has a joint book, Dialogues: Tools for the Working Astrologer, with Frank Clifford. And Mark has contributed chapters in: Astrology: The New Generation; Transpersonal Astrology; and Insights into Evolutionary Astrology. In 2020 Mark published his third book, The Planetary Nodes and Collective Evolution.

00:45 – Mark’s first astrology books were The Astrologer's Handbook by Frances Sakoian and Louis Acker and The Anatomy of Fate: Kabbalistic Astrology by Warren Kenton.

12:35 – If Mark could bring only three books to a deserted island, his first pick would be Cosmos and Psyche: Intimations of a New World View by Richard Tarnas. (He also mentions The Book of World Horoscopes by Nicholas Campion and the work of Liz Greene!)

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23:37 – Mark’s second choice would be From Humanistic to Transpersonal Astrology by Dane Rudhyar.

31:55 – The third title Mark would bring is Pluto: The Evolutionary Journey of the Soul by Jeffrey Wolf Green. (And a hat tip to the work of Howard Sasportas and Stephen Arroyo!)

38:05 – For beginners, Mark recommends Principles of Astrology by Charles and Suzy Harvey and The Inner Sky by Steven Forrest

43:40 – Find Mark – and learn about his classes and trainings – at his website: https://markjonesastrology.com/.

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Show notes by Jen Braun, JJ Boots Productions LLC.