Astrologer Patrick Watson joins host Jenn Zahrt from Michigan! Join the pair for this jam-packed episode, covering tons of terrain, including: encouraging a broader awareness of the cosmic rhythms; zodiacal releasing and when to switch the lots; the unique skill of superforecasters; considering retrogrades as wilding and extroverted; and don’t forget latitude! All that, plus: kimchi for Mars in Cancer, an astrological big brother and a paper nephew, and… is the clock looking back at us??

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Episode timestamps (conversation recorded March 2025):

00:31 – Patrick Watson has studied astrology since his teens. He is a certified professional astrologer, specializing in traditional and modern predictive techniques. He has broad proficiency in natal, electional, horary and mundane astrology, as well as rectification. He has consulted over 2000 clients in his work as a professional astrologer. He has been featured on The Astrology Podcast, The Washington Post, ABC News, The Wall Street Journal and Vox. His research interests include Hellenistic timelord systems, synodic cycles, election prediction, financial astrology and astrological applications of AI. He currently serves as CAPISAR President. He co-founded Thema Mundi Technologies, which is developing the new astrology software Nechepso.

00:35 – Patrick read his first astrology book as a teen, pulling it from his mother’s bookshelf! It was The Astrologer's Handbook by Frances Sakoian and Louis Acker. And a shout-out to the horoscopes in The Reader's Digest, which he read at age 7!

05:02 – If Patrick could bring only three books to a deserted island, his first pick would be Cosmos and Psyche: Intimations of a New World View by Richard Tarnas.

14:34 – Patrick’s second choice would be Hellenistic Astrology: The Study of Fate and Fortune by Chris Brennan.

17:49 – Interlude: Join the CAELi Support Drive and for only $35, you can enjoy your morning beverage out of a gorgeous CAELi mug!

18:36 – The third title Patrick would bring is The Anthology by Vettius Valens.

30:39 – Honorable mentions go to Ancient Astrology in Theory and Practice: A Manual of Traditional Techniques by Demetra George and Superforecasting: The Art and Science of Prediction by Dan Gardner and Philip Tetlock.

39:12 – Why did the chicken cross the road? Tune in! For beginners, Patrick recommends You Were Born For This: Astrology for Radical Self-Acceptance by Chani Nicholas. And lend your ears to the delightful story about The Only Astrology Book You'll Ever Need by Joanna Martine Woolfolk.

42:20 – Find Patrick at his website: https://patrickwatsonastrology.com/. On most social media, he is @pwatsonastro. And Nechepso will be available May 28, 2025!

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Show notes and production by Jen Braun of JJ Boots Productions LLC.