Astrologer and author Rebecca Gordon joins host Jenn Zahrt from New York City! Together, Jenn and Rebecca chat books, an ecosystems approach to astrology, and more, including: a consideration of historical patterns; the tapestry of fixed stars; medical astrology; and the importance of the elements. Plus: a pride of Leo risings, thoughts on the Berlin Wall, and… what’s your heliacal rising star?

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Episode timestamps (conversation recorded June 2025):

00:12 – Rebecca Gordon is an author, visionary astrologer, futurist, and systems thinker who bridges astrology with governance, business, ecology, and cultural evolution. Rather than studying astrology in isolation, she explores its role in shaping human systems, integrating celestial cycles into real-world applications that influence everything from leadership models to environmental frameworks. Her pioneering Ecosystems Astrology method reframes astrology as an interconnected, living system—an approach she’s shared through global retreats, workshops, and thought leadership. Rebecca has collaborated with organizations such as Google, Aman Hotels, The NED, NeueHouse, and even Christian Louboutin bringing astrology into the worlds of business, fashion, technology, and hospitality through keynotes and team building events. Rebecca has spoken at leading conferences on astrology, futurism, and interdisciplinary thought, engaging in conversations on AI, quantum mechanics, and social transformation. Through retreats and immersive experiences, Rebecca invites participants to engage with astrology as a tool for systems thinking, ecological awareness, and cultural innovation, weaving the ancient axiom as above, so below into the fabric of modern life.

01:12 – Rebecca’s first astrology book was Parkers’ Astrology by Julia and Derek Parker, which she loved! Around the same time, she also encountered The Only Astrology Book You'll Ever Need by Joanna Martine Woolfolk – but Parkers’ gets the hat tip!

06:21 – If Rebecca could bring only three books to a deserted island, her first pick would be Cosmos and Psyche: Intimations of a New World View by Richard Tarnas.

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16:55 – Rebecca’s second choice would be Brady's Book of Fixed Stars: The Invisible Force and Influence of Constellations in the Natal Chart by Bernadette Brady.

24:20 – The third title Rebecca would bring is Hellenistic Astrology: The Study of Fate and Fortune by Chris Brennan.

25:16 – For beginners, Rebecca recommends Astrology, Psychology, and the Four Elements: An Energy Approach to Astrology and Its Use in the Counseling Arts by Stephen Arroyo and The Astrology Sourcebook: A Guide to the Symbolic Language of the Stars by Shirley Soffer. Rebecca also offers two Irish poets that have been meaningful to her – John O'Donohue’s book Beauty: The Invisible Embrace and the work of David Whyte.

31:08 – Jenn asks Rebecca about her text Your Body and the Stars: The Zodiac As Your Wellness Guide, co-authored with Stephanie Marango. Tune in to hear the deets!

33:26 – Find Rebecca at her website: https://www.rebeccagordonastrology.com/.

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Show notes and production by Jen Braun of JJ Boots Productions LLC.