Want to understand Hope Chapel as a "movement?"

You'll enjoy learning how Zac Nazarian showed up to promote his Amway business, left that day mocking Hope Chapel and Ralph but returned later after his wife deserted him. The kicker was that the thing he had mocked had happened just before he lost his wife.

Learn the ins, outs and twists of disciplemaking in the relationship between these two old guys, as it was when they were both less than half as old as they are today.

Perhaps the real miracle is that both are still able to walk, let alone continue making disciples and multiplying churches.

This is the first of three podcasts. You'll want to catch all three.

You can read some of this in Ralph's motivating autobiography, Let Go of the Ring: The Hope Chapel Story.

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