In this powerful and honest episode, Dr. Janine Do Cabo and Christo Pretorius unpack the heart behind The CEO Collective, not as a networking event, but as an ecosystem of high-capacity leaders building legacy through clarity, capacity, and cadence.

What started a decade ago has now become a leadership movement shaping the modern CEO. This episode explores how growth happens when trust is built, when leaders stop posturing and start pouring, and when the right people get in the room.

Whether you’re a founder, strategist, executive, or business owner — this isn’t just another event. It’s a space where failure becomes feedback, co-opetition replaces ego, and full calendars meet full cups.

🎧 Listen if you:

* Are a CEO, founder, or high-capacity leader feeling isolated or under-supported

* Want to experience deeper, more authentic leadership conversations

* Believe growth is not just personal, it’s communal

* Are tired of the performance-based business culture and crave real connection

* Are curious about starting your own CEO Collective in your city

🔑 Key Themes:

* From Idea to Impact: The 10-year journey behind the Collective

* Why the Room Matters: Beyond Zoom and surface-level connections

* Cadence Creates Progress: What happens when growth becomes rhythmic

* Failure is Feedback: Changing the narrative around mistakes

* Co-opetition Over Competition: Why collaboration wins

* The CEO Promise: Clarity. Capacity. Cadence.

* From Networking to Net-Worthing: How community creates currency

* Scaling with Soul: How the Collective is expanding into cities and provinces

💬 Memorable Quotes:

* “The future is us —> not ego, but eco.”

* “People buy from people they like, love, and trust. That’s why community is the currency of the future.”

* “If you’re too busy to attend, that’s exactly why you need to be in the room.”

* “You don’t need another mastermind. You need a room that mirrors who you’re becoming.”

* “AI might accelerate knowledge, but only authenticity accelerates transformation.”

* “Stop chasing rooms. Start elevating the one you’re in.”

🎧 Listen if you:

* Are a CEO, founder, or high-capacity leader feeling isolated or under-supported

* Want to experience deeper, more authentic leadership conversations

* Believe growth is not just personal, it’s communal

* Are tired of the performance-based business culture and crave real connection

* Are curious about starting your own CEO Collective in your city

🚀 Call to Action:

If this episode lit something up in you -> don’t ignore it.

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Let’s be honest — today’s Marketing Cosmetics session was a bit chaotic.The internet had other plans, Zoom froze mid-sentence, and I’m convinced someone’s cat was presenting for at least three seconds.

But here’s the thing: in between all that buffering, something powerful happened.

We cracked open the single most under-rated marketing weapon for 2026.And it’s not a viral trend, a shiny funnel, or a paid ad.

It’s email.The quiet powerhouse that’s still outperforming every platform you scroll through.

Before we go any further, a little insider moment.If you’re reading this, it means you’re part of my community — and that matters.

The Marketing Cosmetics flagship program sells for R32,000, but because you’re already on my email list, you qualify for exclusive IN10TIONAL Access Pricing — R14,000 for the full 5-month program.

And if you’re already enrolled, you get insider access — which means anyone you personally bring into the February intake can also join at R14,000 instead of the standard R32,000.

This is my way of saying thank you for being part of the ecosystem we’re building — one that rewards loyalty, leadership, and foresight.

Because you didn’t just follow the brand.You belonged before it became a trend.

The Real Truth About Where Growth Is Happening in 2026 (Yes three months from now)

Social media builds awareness.Email builds relationships.

Your follower count might make you feel famous —but your email list makes you money.

In 2025, businesses are earning R37 for every R1 spent on email marketing (HubSpot 2025). That’s a 3 700% ROI — better than TikTok, Meta ads, or influencer collaborations combined.

And before you assume email is “old-school,” let’s kill that myth right now:78% of Gen Z and Millennials actually prefer brand communication via email because it gives them control. They open it when they want.

That’s the difference between attention and in10tion.

🚀 Enrollment Window now open for the February 2026 Cohort.

What We Covered (and Why It Matters for You)

Inside today’s live session — the slightly wobbly one — we broke down the entire ecosystem for your 2026 marketing plan:

1. Building your list — the right way.You don’t buy followers; you build trust.Interactive lead magnets like quizzes and templates are outperforming static PDFs by 41%.

2. Designing campaigns that convert.Rule of one: one email, one message.Within three seconds, your reader should know what you’re offering and why it matters.

3. Automation and AI.Tools like HubSpot AI, Mailchimp AI, and Klaviyo now predict send-times based on behaviour.Brands using AI-timed sends are seeing 12–18% higher open rates.

4. Measuring success.Forget open rates — privacy changes made them unreliable.The new gold standards: click-through rate, conversions, and engagement per subscriber.

Top performers right now hit 5.5% CTR and unsubscribe rates under 0.3%.

Marketing Cosmetics is the answer for brand, sales and marketing! Learn it. Build it. Launch it in 3 months, starting this February. Have your full marketing strategy done in 12 sessions — with expert help at every step.

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The Integration Most Brands Miss

Here’s where most marketers fall flat — they treat social media and email like divorced parents fighting for custody of your customer’s attention.

Stop that.

Your customer doesn’t experience your brand in silos.They see your Instagram post, click your link, land on your site, download a freebie, and open your email — all within minutes.

That’s one continuous story.

So, here’s how to keep it consistent:

* Email: the full story

* Instagram: the visual hook

* TikTok: the behind-the-scenes

* LinkedIn: the insight post

This is called content synergy.When your message sounds the same across platforms, your audience doesn’t just remember your post — they remember you.

What This Means for 2026

The next wave of growth isn’t about chasing algorithms — it’s about owning your ecosystem.

You can’t control social platforms, but you can control your inbox, your data, and your relationships.

Social media is your megaphone.Email is your handshake.

When you use both with IN10TION, you don’t just get seen — you get remembered.

Your Next Step

If you loved this insight, this is just one of 12 full sessions inside the Marketing Cosmetics program — where we teach entrepreneurs how to turn strategy into sales, systems, and scale.

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Build your brand with substance.Market it with IN10TION.And let your results speak louder than the algorithm.

🔥 Why This Topic Hits Right Now and why you should be apart it

We are in a post-digital burnout era. Zoom fatigue, algorithmic isolation, and the illusion of connection through vanity metrics have left coaches, teachers, and leaders hungry for something deeper: real, in-person transformation.

The trend isn’t just nostalgia—it’s a recalibration. Because if the last few years taught us anything, it’s this: screens scale your voice, but rooms shape your vision.

More and more thought leaders are realizing: “If I want to grow, I need a room where I’m not the smartest person.” And in the coaching and consulting world, the future doesn’t belong to those who only master technique — it belongs to those who can build ecosystems of trust, alignment, and embodiment.

And those ecosystems are being built offline again.

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🔍 Let’s Go Deeper: The Core Conversations We’ll Be Having in This Episode

1. The Re-Rise of the RoomThere’s a noticeable shift happening — from webinars to workshops, from funnels to fireside conversations. In-person masterminds, curated boardrooms, and private learning circles are back. Why? Because transformation travels faster through trust.

We answer:“What’s the most powerful in-person room you’ve ever been in — and what did it unlock for you?”

2. Why Coaches, Consultants, Teacher, Entrepreneurs & YOU Must Be in the Right RoomYour proximity affects your perception. Your vision expands in the presence of aligned people. And let’s be honest — no mirror is as honest as a trusted table of peers.

“Online gives you scale. But in-person gives you substance.”

“What does a great room do for your identity, not just your brand?”

3. What’s Changing in 2025 and 2026

Remember I have been tell you COMMUNITY IS THE CURRENCY OF THE FUTURE.. well here we go and this is how it is going to look like!

We’re not just seeing collabs for content — we’re seeing collaborations that prioritize character and growth.

Real alliances are being built around legacy, integrity, and long-term vision — not just launch calendars.

More than ever, people are craving:

* Safety to be seen

* Synergy of thought and purpose

* Strategy rooted in humanity

The coaching industry is evolving — facilitation is no longer enough. The real edge? Community curation.

“Why do you think people are willing to invest more now to be in curated rooms rather than free webinars or public online groups?”

4. What to Look for in a RoomThe best rooms aren’t the biggest. They’re the most aligned. Look for:

* Trust over trophies

* Curated over crowded

* Legacy over ego

* Story over strategy

“If the room requires you to perform, it’s not your room. If it helps you return to who you are, stay.”

5. If You’re Not in a Room Yet… Here’s Where to StartStart with resonance, not recognition. Don’t chase the room with the most followers — go where your becoming is safe.

* Join circles that reflect your values, not just your goals.

* Start small. A monthly peer group, a local coffee table, a trusted triad.

* Remember: You don’t need 100 people. You need 10 honest ones.

Are you looking for a room like this?

We each run our own:

* Dr. Janine and Gustav Gous – The Leadership Boardroom - Randburg, JHB, South Africa

* Christo – The Collective - Boksburg, JHB South Africa

* Odette – SustainHer - Adelaide, Australia

These aren’t marketing funnels. They’re transformational rooms. DM us or comment to learn how to join.

“What’s the room that changed you — and how do you make sure you’re now creating that kind of space for others?”

The Myth: You Need to Do Everything Manually to Stay Authentic.

The truth?Authenticity is a system.One that runs in the background while you lead, sell, serve — and live.

This week on 10 IN10TIONAL Minutes with Janine, I sit down with Tuli, a quiet force in the tech world who’s helping coaches, consultants, and creatives build systems that don’t just work — they win.

Tuli doesn’t believe in automation for the sake of it. She builds tech that respects your brand voice, protects your peace, and creates bookings in your sleep.

If you’ve ever felt overwhelmed by tech, lost in your CRM, or stuck duct-taping platforms together — this conversation will recalibrate the way you think about systems.

Key Moments You Don’t Want to Miss

* Why systems are the soul infrastructure of any coaching business

* The 3 mistakes every coach is making with tech — and how to fix them

* What Tuli learned inside Marketing Cosmetics™ — and how it helped her scale smarter, not noisier

* How to use AI without losing your voice

* Why the backend of your business reflects the belief system of your brand

* One thing every founder should automate this month — no matter what

What You’ll Walk Away With

* A mindset shift: from managing tech to mastering it

* Real insight into tools that talk to each other (not just exist on your laptop)

* A strategy-first approach to automation

* Permission to scale without losing the human connection

* A real-world example of what happens when you combine Marketing Cosmetics™ with systems thinking

Listen to the Episode

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Great businesses don’t just attract leads. They manage momentum.

Tuli’s work is a reminder that you don’t need more hustle — you need smarter highways.

If this episode spoke to you, reply to this post and tell me:🛠️ What’s one thing you need to automate — but haven’t?Let’s make it make sense.

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Friends,

We just wrapped a 🔥 new episode of Off Topic but On Point, and I have to tell you — it hit different.

We weren’t talking about strategy. Or scaling. Or even social media.We were talking about something more primal, more personal, more powerful:

👉 Your body.👉 Your strength.👉 Your ability to lead, build, and endure — starting from the inside out.

Because here's the thing:

You can’t show up sharp in your mind if you’re falling apart in your body.

In this episode, I’m joined by Odette de Beer (The Alchemist) and Christo (The Expander) as we break open a truth many leaders overlook:

🔥 Fitness is not about how you look. It’s about how you last.

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💥 Why This Matters

Inside my book IN10TIONALITY, there’s a chapter called “Intent for What Makes You Stronger.”

It’s not about hustle.It’s not about muscle.It’s about mental resilience, spiritual alignment, and emotional durability — and how your physical body plays a massive role in all three.

“When you strengthen your body, you send a message to your soul: I’m here for the long haul.”

That’s why fitness matters.That’s why movement matters.And that’s why I stopped trying to fit someone else’s routine — and found my own.

🚴‍♀️ My Journey: From Forcing It to Finding Flow

People told me to run.

I tried.

And I hated it.

I hated every step, every breath, every guilt trip that came with it.

But then… I found cycling.Then I discovered strength training.And I realized: movement doesn’t have to be a punishment — it can be permission.

Permission to clear your mind.To build discipline.To prove to yourself that when you want to quit — you won’t.

Those reps? They’re not just for your body.They’re rehearsals for the resistance you’ll face in real life.

🎙️ What We Talked About in This Episode

✨ The mindset shift that turns exercise into a leadership tool✨ How your daily discipline in the gym mirrors your mental grit in business✨ What Christo teaches about capacity and stewardship✨ Odette’s take on alignment and emotional regulation through movement✨ Why intentional strength is one of the 10 pillars of a rewarding life

🧠 My “MOVE” Framework for Building Intentional Strength

You don’t need a 90-minute gym session.You need rhythm, purpose, and consistency.

Here’s how I approach it:

* M – Make it joyful. If you hate it, you won’t do it.

* O – Own your rhythm. Morning workouts aren’t holy. Consistency is.

* V – View it as mindset training. Push your limits here, expand them everywhere.

* E – Energise yourself daily. Movement creates mental momentum.

💣 Truth Bombs From the Episode

“Fitness isn’t selfish. It’s foundational.”

“Mental resilience is built in the reps no one sees.”

“Your body is your first assignment. Steward it like your life depends on it—because it does.”

💬 Before You Go…

If you’ve been struggling to stay focused…Feeling stuck or sluggish in your business…Or wondering where your motivation went…

Check in with your body.Because your breakthrough might not be waiting on another mindset tip —…it might be waiting on your movement.

🎧 Listen to the full episode here:

👇And if it hits you like it hit us — share it with someone building something big who needs to be reminded:

Your body isn’t separate from your calling.It’s the vehicle for it.

If this hit home — don’t just listen and leave.

* Share this episode with someone you know and needs a nudge.

* Subscribe for more IN10TIONAL moments — where strategy meets soul.

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Where we don’t just talk about strategy…We implement it. We finish it. We win with it.

🎧 Episode Summary

This episode is more than a conversation — it’s a call back to your original design.

We unpack what most people avoid: the crisis of identity and the discipline of becoming.

Together with Odette (The Alchemist) and Pastor Christo (The Expander), Dr. Janine Do Cabo (The IN10TIONALIST) creates a space for truth, clarity, and transformation.

Here’s what we cover:

* Why most people have been shaped by performance, pressure, and people-pleasing — not identity

* How to rediscover who you were before life started editing your essence

* What it practically takes to become who you were designed to be

* The two transformative frameworks: FIND and BECOME

* Soul-level questions that unlock clarity and direction

* And the truth bombs that hit deep and stick for life

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This is the kind of conversation that doesn’t just change your mindset — it anchors your spirit.

Episode Breakdown

🔹 Part 1: The Identity Question

“Who am I — really?”

* Identity isn’t found in the noise — it’s uncovered in the quiet.

* Most people lose their identity trying to survive someone else’s version of success.

* True clarity starts when you stop performing and start listening to your convictions.

🧠 FIND Identity Framework

* F – Face the false stories

* I – Identify your inner convictions

* N – Name your natural gifts

* D – Discern your divine assignment

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🔹 Part 2: Becoming That Version of You

“Now that I know who I am… how do I live like it?”

* Becoming is not a crown you wear — it’s a life you live.

* This process takes alignment, daily intentional action, and radical permission to evolve.

🧠 BECOME Framework

* B – Build habits that reflect the real you

* E – Eliminate what no longer fits

* C – Choose environments that reinforce growth

* O – Own your voice and values

* M – Move in aligned action

* E – Embrace process over perfection

Key Quotes & Truth Bombs

💣 “The way you see yourself will always cap the way the world sees your impact.”💣 “You don’t need to do more to become more. You need to believe deeper to rise higher.”💣 “Your future self is waiting on the decisions your present self is afraid to make.”💣 “When you stop trying to be who they expect, you become who you were born to be.”💣 “Legacy doesn’t come from what you build. It comes from who you become while building it.”💣 “Clarity is not a luxury—it’s the permission slip to become unstoppable.”

🎯 Reflection Round: The Question That Changes Everything

Dr. Janine:“Who would I be without fear — and what’s one decision I’d make from that version of me?”

Odette: (TBD – recommend something like)“Where am I moving too fast to avoid being fully seen — and what would alignment look like instead?”

Christo: (TBD – recommend something like)“What vision am I postponing because I don’t feel ready — and who told me I had to wait?”

“If this episode stirred you, good. Let it. Identity isn’t a marketing message. It’s a process of becoming — and that becoming starts now.

If you want to go deeper, hit subscribe because there is more to come. You’ll find the frameworks, faith, and fire you need to move forward on purpose.

Share this episode with someone who’s in the becoming process. That’s everyone around you.And remember: You don’t need more tips. You need more truth.

Until next time… stay intentional, and keep becoming the best version of yourself.”

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* Share this episode with someone you know and needs a nudge.

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Where we don’t just talk about strategy…We implement it. We finish it. We win with it.

“Let me say it straight: talkers don’t change the world — finishers do.If you’re always setting goals but rarely hitting them, you might be stuck in Flaker mode.

Today, I’m calling it out — and calling you up — to become the kind of person who doesn’t just dream it, but actually delivers it… on purpose.”

Free Entry and Peek into my paid Sessions….

Hey IN10TIONALIST,This is Dr. Janine Do Cabo, your growth strategist and The IN10TIONALIST — and today we’re talking about a conversation that might sting a little… but it could also shift everything for you.

Let’s talk about the two kinds of people in every room — and in every mirror:

The Flaker and the Finisher.

We all start off as dreamers. We have goals, vision boards, ideas. But somewhere along the road, most people get caught in a loop of trying instead of doing, of talking instead of finishing.

Let me break it down…

The Flaker

This is the person who means well. They’re full of plans, promises, and post-its.

They:

* Set deadlines, but never meet them.

* Make commitments, but always have a story.

* Fill the room with noise, but rarely with value.

* Talk more than they take action.

They’re the masters of overexplaining and underperforming.They say they’re “working on it” — but months go by, and nothing’s shipped, launched, or lived.

Let me be clear: flaking isn’t a character flaw. It’s a clarity flaw. It’s the result of a life misaligned with IN10TION.

Now, The Finisher

The Finisher isn’t necessarily the loudest, smartest, or most gifted — they’re just the most consistent.

They:

* Set a goal and reverse-engineer the how.

* Align their priorities with purpose.

* Show up when it’s hard — not just when it’s convenient.

* Don’t chase applause. They crave alignment.

Finishers don’t need hype — they have habits.They don’t just have dreams — they have direction.And they finish not just because they can — but because it’s who they are.

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So What’s the Difference?

One Word: IN10TIONALITY

IN10TIONALITY is the power that makes finishing possible — and purposeful.

When you align your time, energy, and effort with what truly matters, the results aren’t just “done”…They’re fabulous.

That’s what happens when the Finisher steps up with focus.

Your IN10TIONAL Moment:

I want you to reflect — are you spending more time explaining why it’s not done,or intentionally building the life and business that actually aligns with your vision?

Because here’s the truth:You don’t need more goals. You need more follow-through.

If this hit home — don’t just listen and leave.

* Share this episode with someone you know is stuck in Flaker mode and needs a nudge.

* Subscribe for more IN10TIONAL moments — where strategy meets soul.

* And if you’re ready to turn your potential into a plan, and your goals into GRIT-fueled results — come join the next intake of the Marketing Cosmetics Program.

Where we don’t just talk about strategy…We implement it. We finish it. We win with it.

You can find the link here — and remember,You were never called to be average. You were called to finish.

This is Dr. J — signing off as your Finisher-in-Chief.

Stay IN10TIONAL. Stay in motion. Stay on mission.

In this unapologetically raw conversation, we continue where we left off—moving between the tension between staying grounded and staying open. Last time, we challenged childhood beliefs, unlearned silent rules, and cracked open that powerful line:“Strong convictions, loosely held.”

But this time… we go deeper.

Because conviction is one thing. Obedience? That’s where it gets real.

Today’s episode dives headfirst into the cost of obedience—especially when the outcome isn’t clear, the reward isn’t instant, and the journey feels invisible to everyone else.

We ask the hard questions:

* What happens when conviction calls you… but it costs you more than you expected?

* How do you keep showing up when your vision doesn’t match your current reality?

* Where is the line between faithful waiting and spiritual procrastination?

This is about the gap—between what we know and what we see.Between obedience and outcome.Between trust and the truth we’re living right now.

🧠 What We Explore in This Episode:

* The unseen cost of obedience: emotional, financial, relational

* What to do when clarity feels like a curse—because now you can’t unsee your vision

* How to respond when obedience feels invisible or misunderstood

* The lonely space of being in-between: not who you were, not yet where you're going

* How to discern between divine waiting… and resistance disguised as comfort

💬 Key Conversation Prompts & Questions:

* “What’s one moment where obedience felt invisible—or even misunderstood?”

* “Dr. J, you mentioned that obedience often has a cost. How do we hold onto purpose when the price feels personal?”

* “Apostle Nicky always says the blessing is in the instruction, not the outcome. How do we live that out when nothing seems to be working?”

* “There’s this weight that comes with clarity—how do we keep faith when our current season doesn’t reflect our future vision?”

* “How do you know when you’re waiting in faith… versus avoiding a necessary shift?”

🛑 Truth That Landed:

* “Obedience is the bridge between revelation and manifestation.”

* “Clarity isn’t always comforting—it’s often confronting.”

* “What you’re calling ‘waiting on God’ might actually be God waiting on you.”

* “Fruit follows obedience, not the other way around.”

* “The gap is proof you're in motion.”

👂 Why This Episode Matters:

This one is for the leaders, the risk-takers, the visionaries……the ones who said yes but are still waiting on the fruit.The ones who obeyed in faith but are walking through silence.The ones who are questioning if they heard right—or if they’re just tired.

This episode is your reminder:Obedience is not about optics. It’s about alignment.And alignment always precedes breakthrough.

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Hey IN10TIONALIST,

We’re not sugar-coating leadership today!We’re stripping it down to what really matters: authenticity.

In a world full of performance, posturing, and pretending, what does it actually mean to lead from a place of truth?

I invited Dr. Vivian Rogers — affectionately known as The Excellence Coach — to join me for a deep, no-filter conversation on what it takes to lead with character, not just charisma.

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He’s a Certified Executive Life Coach with Distinction, the author of 14 books (some now used in international postgrad programs), and a mentor who’s impacted lives across boardrooms, platforms, and nations.

And in this episode, we unpack it all:

* What authenticity in leadership really looks like

* How integrity and character build trust that lasts

* Why culture isn’t something you build — it’s something you become

* And how authentic leadership impacts not just your image, but your output

* If you're tired of leadership fluff and hungry for something real — this one’s for you.

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In the latest episode of Off Topic, But On Point, we went deep – not by design, but because that’s what happens when truth meets trust. This week’s conversation, led by the ever-insightful Pastor Christo Pretorius, turned into a heartfelt reflection on identity, influence, and what it really means to become.

Joined by Odette de Beer, Dr. Janine de Cabo (aka The Intentionalist), and her brilliant friend and co-host Pastor Christo, we explored the beautiful tension between growth and grounding. Here's a glimpse of what went down—and why it matters.

Why This Podcast Is Different

Unlike our individual shows, this space is sacred. It's real friends having real conversations—raw, unscripted, and rich with shared experience. Here, there's no need to perform or posture. It's about showing up, saying the truth, and listening deeply.

As Odette put it, “This is my favourite conversation. It challenges me. Sometimes I hold back tears. But I always leave better.”

The Becoming: What Shapes Us

This episode was titled The Becoming of Odette de Beer & Dr. Janine de Cabo—and for good reason. Pastor C asked questions that opened doors into our formative moments: from career-defining promotions to life-altering moves across the world.

For me, my parents’ contrasting influences—my mom’s corporate precision and my dad’s entrepreneurial fire—shaped my leadership style and grounded my approach to business. A pivotal moment? Being promoted to Marketing Manager early in my career, and my mom's less-than-thrilled reaction. At the time, I didn’t get it. Now, I do. She saw the weight that title would bring. And she was right. - Dr. Janine Do Cabo

Odette’s story echoed a similar theme. From watching her dad pursue academic excellence to her mom’s quiet strength and resilience, her roots run deep. One defining moment came at 21, confidently declaring over dinner in Kenya, “I’m destined for greatness.” That conviction never left—despite the challenges of rebuilding a life (and business) from scratch after relocating internationally. - Odette de Beer

What We Leave Behind

Odette shared the heartbreak of leaving behind sentimental things—like her kids’ handprints in clay or her wedding album—but reminded us that the real essentials aren’t tangible. Knowledge. Grit. Relationships. Those travel with you.

The hardest part of the transition? Letting go of identity. “In South Africa, I worked hard for my reputation. Here, I was a nobody.” That vulnerability gave birth to new strength. She started a women’s networking group that’s already changing lives. One woman came up after an event and said, “Your words made me feel like I belonged. I relaunched my business today because of that.”

That's impact.

From Overwhelm to Intention

As we shared our struggles, a common theme emerged: the tension between where we are and where we want to be. Whether it’s yearning for greater influence or feeling the weight of time, we’re all navigating the gap.

For me, that meant simplifying. Out of overwhelm, intentionality was born. I asked myself: What 10 things can I focus on to grow? I named them. I lived them. And I shared them. That framework became the heart of what I now teach.

Odette’s challenge? Slowing down. “I do everything on double-time—sermons, podcasts, voice notes. But growth isn’t a sprint. I need to slow down so others can come with me.”

The Wisdom We’re Living By

Before we wrapped, Pastor C asked: What advice would you give to someone in their own becoming?

Here’s what we said:

* Simplify the process. Build a system that works for you. Make it so easy you’ll stick with it.

* Start from experience. You’re not beginning from scratch—you’re building on everything you’ve lived and learned.

* You can’t derail your destiny. You’re not powerful enough to mess up God’s plan for your life.

* Don’t despise small beginnings. True transformation often starts with one person. You.

This episode was full of laughter, tears, and truths that go straight to the soul. If you’re in the middle of becoming—personally, professionally, or spiritually—this conversation is for you.

🎧 Listen now, and then share it with a friend who needs to be reminded: You’re not alone in the process. And yes, you are becoming someone remarkable.

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