The name Perez Hilton was synonymous with online celebrity culture in the mid 00s. Via his blog Perez gossiped about the famous names of the day and gave what many felt was a toxic view of people, and at the time and many years later those who he wrote about have said how much the coverage impacted their mental health.

Perez began a long period of self-reflection and understands now how his actions rippled out into the wider world. In this episode he and Malin talk about his journey, the act of forgiveness, and how he's made peace that for some people he can never be forgiven.

Listen to Perez's own podcast and see his latest news at www.perezhilton.com 

See what Malin has been up to as well as reading mantas she shares on Instagram - www.instagram.com/MissMalinSara