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This week we have writer for Pitchfork, Billboard, Stereogum and lots more Patrick Lyons on to talk about the Rilo Kiley record More Adventurous. We also talk about: anthems for a seventeen year old girl, Queens (borough), Anacortes, Steve Brooks, the pitchfork review process, Ontological Mysterium by Horrendous, Turnstile (again), music on the beach, emo revival, getting all the details wrong, hyperpop, 100 gecs , letting it spray, disappointing follow-ups, the latter Modest Mouse catalog, bidding on Elliott Smith’s car, the unibomber’s backpack, Don’s Plum, we also talk a lot about Rilo Kiley. 

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