The Art of We

101. “The Dry Cleaners Incident” (& How We Made Up)


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Krista and Will dive into a relatable moment that many of us have experienced—how a seemingly small disagreement can ignite big emotions. They unpack their own recent "dry cleaning incident" and share the raw and vulnerable details of what it triggered for each of them and how they repaired the rupture. You’ll learn how to navigate those frustrating ruptures in your relationship and transform them into moments of growth. This episode is packed with practical tools on how to communicate better, repair conflicts, and move from "I" to "We" in your partnership.

“The Art Of We” podcast with Krista Van Derveer and Dr. Will Van Derveer.

(00:00) The Dry Cleaning Incident: What Happened

(00:30) Embracing Relationship Ruptures as Growth Opportunities

(01:00) The Importance of Vulnerability in Conflict

(03:00) How Small Triggers Lead to Big Reactions

(04:30) The Role of Unspoken Expectations

(06:00) Moving from “I” to “We” in Relationships

(08:30) The Power of Repairing Conflicts

(10:30) Assuming Positive Intent in Your Partner

(12:00) Understanding Each Other’s Wounds & Past Trauma In Relationships 

(14:30) Communicating Your Emotional State Effectively

(16:00) The Importance of Regular Relationship Check-ins

Reach out with your thoughts, experiences, and topics you want to hear about. We love hearing from our listeners!

Resources Mentioned: 

  • Our Top 10 Relationship Agreements 
  • Episode 99: Dr. Jill Carnahan & Aaron Carnahan Post-Divorce

Get in Touch: 

  • The Art Of We Website
  • The Art of We Instagram 
  • Integrative Psychiatry Institute: Psychedelic Therapy Training

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