Mark Cowgill is a remarkable guy. He is a Director and Co-Founder of Exa Networks in Bradford and he booked David to do presentation skills coaching for him and his team in 2019/20.

David asked Mark to give him a video testimonial once the lockdown dust had lifted. What transpired was a 90 minute chat between two business colleagues who have a shared passion for and understanding of the astonishing power of a presentation.

In this extended podcast episode, Mark and David talk about everything presenting in relation to being a leader.

- how every time he speaks, it is a presentation

- how he and his team have made more money by improving their presentation skills

- how it has 'fundamentally changed his life'

- and much, much more