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103. How Rest Became the Riskiest Thing We Do with Jennifer Westpfahl


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In this episode, I sit down with Jennifer Westpfahl, founder of Be.Retreats, to talk about what it looks like to build a life and a business that make space for rest, intention, stillness, and connection — and how those four pillars spell something else entirely: RISK.

Jennifer shares the winding story of how B-Retreats came to life, not from a business plan or a strategic vision, but from a feeling that just wouldn’t go away. What began as a simple women’s weekend at a cabin has evolved into a growing series of in-person and virtual retreats designed to help people slow down, reconnect, and live with more authenticity.

We talk about:

🌿 The unexpected journey of saying “yes” to something before you have it all figured out

💛 How rest can feel risky in a world that glorifies busyness

🪞 The identity shifts that come with motherhood, empty nests, and growing older

🔥 Why community and connection matter more than perfection

🕯️ And what it really means to stop — not just pause — and allow yourself to be

Connect with Jennifer:

Website: beretreats.co

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jmwestpfahl/

Be.Retreats Instagram: @beretreatsmn


Connect with Ashley:

Website: https://www.ashleyblackington.com

Podcast website: https://www.andbothpodcast.com/

Dovetail® App: https://apps.apple.com/us/app/dovetail-app/id6744341822

Instagram: @mydovetail.app

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ashleyblackington/

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AND/BOTH Podcast - Real Conversations, Shared Experiences, and the Community You've Been MissingBy Dr. Ashley Blackington