A bit introspective this week as Ben and David talk about watching Doctor Who during times when the show is not much to their liking. Prompted by Ben finally purchasing the DVD for Time and the Rani and a listener asking why do we still watch if Series 11 wasn't much to our liking? Ben takes a paternalistic view of Who and David reflects on what first got him hooked on Who during Tom Baker's run on PBS, such as cliffhangers and the location filming. What looked exotic and otherworldly for David growing up in the Midwest United States was the comforting and familiar for Ben growing up in Britain. We talk about the new Scratchman book and how it might be a bit of a car crash, if articles in DWM are any indication, but then we are the target demographic for such a book and its nice that something other than senior housing is being prepared for men of a certain age. Plus discussion on what's to come in upcoming weeks on M2P. Opening and closing music is by Keff McCulloch from his score for Time and the Rani.